Elora: Did you undergo Ascension in some other Universe?
Heru: Yes. I came here fully Ascended. In fact it would have been, at the time, very difficult to have Ascended in this Universe. Not many Beings who came to this Universe would have been able to Ascend here, if they were not already Ascended. At that time, Ascending through this Universe was almost impossible. There is, furthermore, a minor Descension process in being born into a Universe. The “Veils” are much thinner for an Ascended Being but they still must go through an Ascension process. However it can happen fairly quickly and easily. [Elora: Did you go through Ascension in this Universe?] Yes, and I have manifested a physical body on more than one occasion.
Elora: I do not seem to have the drive to Ascend my body, as you and Sananda have done. Why is this? [Ascending the body refers to the process of transmuting the physical body into a body of Light.]
Heru: For you, this has been a very difficult place to be, and there would be a great deal of effort in going through the Ascension process. And you feel that it is not needed.