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From: Ioseph

Subj: Atenveldt History Part 1

Date: 23 Nov 91



The SCA started on 1 May, 1966. The first knight of the SCA

(David the Herald) was dubbed by Siegfried von Hoefflichkeit

at this event.

On 25 March, 1967, Fulk de Wyvern dubbed Henrik of Havn a knight,

and crowned him the first King in the SCA.

The rank of Duke was created on 6 January, 1968, along with the

Order of the Rose, the Order of the Laurel, and MSCA.

On 21 July, 1968, the first King of the East, Bruce of Cloves, was


The SCA was officially incorporated on 4 Oct., 1968.

On 4 January, 1969, Grants of Arms, Awards of Arms, and Court Barons

were created by King Caradoc (ap Cador) of the West.

On 4-6 July, 1969, the first Crown Tourney of the Middle Kingdom was

held. Their first Coronation was on 7 Sept. 1969, with Cariadoc of the

Bow their first King. (He later became King of the East, after being

King of the Middle and declaring War on the East, thus declaring war

on himself, and starting Pennsic War). Ioseph of Locksley and Richard

Ironsteed join the SCA, at Santa Barbara WesterCon.

On 22 October, 1972, the Order of the Pelican was created. It was

released to the giving of individual Kingdoms on 9 July 1974.

In May of AS XXV, the SCA became a recognized sub-culture, with the

accession of Sir Stephan of Bellatrix, son of Duke Paul of Bellatrix,

to the Throne of the West.


The first Tourney was held on 7 December, 1969, at McCormick Ranch

Park in Scottsdale, and the second Tourney, which chose the first

Prince of the Principality of Atenveldt (now the Sun) was held at

the same location on February 22, 1970. The BoD voted us a Kingdom

on 19 April, 1970, giving us Caerthe and the branch in New Orleans,

and the whole Southern USA to the Atlantic Ocean.

The official "Kingdom Day" is 18 January.

"Atenveldt" was a Principality first, and there is some arguement

as to when or if it ever was a Barony. Robert Roundpounder was the

first Prince.


The Kingdom of Atenveldt was founded and built -primarily- by:

Michael of Moria Deaton Claymore

Richard Ironsteed Care-Cheri of the Fallen Stars

Ivan du Grey (of Navarette) Denis of the Titans

Ioseph of Locksley William of the Shire


The Barony Of Atenveldt was founded by: Michael of Moria and

Richard Ironsteed

The March of Ered Sul was founded by: Perigrine Mellyrn of the

Last Mountain

The Barony of Tyr Ysgithyr was founded by: Rodema de Rohan

The Barony-March of Mons Tinitrus was founded by:

The Barony of SunDragon was founded by: Alys Carvelsdottir and

Mary Margaret of Derby

The Barony of Loch Salann was founded by:

The Barony of 1000 Eyes was founded by:


The following Kingdoms of the SCA came out of Atenveldt:









Premier Chevalier: Johnathan of Whytewolfe

Laurel: Ioseph of Locksley

Pelican: Denis of the Titans


The Crown of Atenveldt can be traced most easily by the "dynasty"

system. These were, in order (so far):

Weldon House








Robert I and Katrin 04/12/70 AS IV to 06/21/70 AS V

Robert Roundpounder, the first Prince of Atenveldt, crowned

himself as Prince, saying that he had won it with his hands

and prowess, and nobody else had the right to give him what

-he- had won by "right of arms." This tradition was continued

in this Kingdom, and written into first Kingdom Law.

The Principality established the Order of Light, a general

Service/Arts award for the Principality of Atenveldt. This

was the first local Order in the SCA...and we were the first

-Principality- in the SCA, too....we went on to establish

many precedents for the SCA, some good...and some not so good.

One person has quipped: "Atenveldt exists so the Board of

Directors has something to keep them occupied...."

Robert only had one real problem as Prince....if a Dallas

Cowboys game was on TV, the WORLD STOPPED while he watched

the game. He wrote very good poetry, too.

Establishment of the "Locksley Monsters." First two were

Sir Carole the Grim and Sir Dale the Small (dsd).

Arthur I and Angela 06/21/70 AS V to 10/21/70 AS V

It was right around in here that William of the Shire built a

Viking longboat. It was about 25 feet long, with a sail. We took

it out on Lake Pleasant, in a VERY brisk wind, and it damn near

out ran the (motor powered) MCSO boat......the Sheriff's thought

it was GREAT, but asked us to get it registered.....

Robert II and Kathleen I 10/21/70 AS V to 01/16/71 AS V

William of the Shire made mead. It was -very- good mead, tho it had

a bad habit of escaping from the bottles and crawling across the floor

of his kitchen. He would strain it thru an old sock. We never asked

if he had washed the sock first or not. One post-revel, as we were

cleaning up the Hall, a Lady that later became Michael of Moria's

second wife was sitting on one of the tables with a rather far-away

look about her. I asked her if anything was wrong, and she looked at

me with great limpid eyes (she had KILLER eyes anyway) and said, in

a -very- tiny voice: "I have a brick in my head." Then she fell over.

(Note: The Crown Prince/ess of the Kingdom ruled as Prince and

Princess from 01/16/71 until Post-Regency.)


(renaming of the Princip. of Atenveldt as Princip. of the Sun

and re-establishment of the Prince and Princess of the Sun)

Ivan and Kathleen IV 01-06-77 AS XI to 05-07-77 AS XII

Thomas I and Anastasia I 05-07-77 AS XII to 11-05-77 AS XII

Denis II and Trude I 11-05-77 AS XII to 06-11-78 AS XIII

Amayot and Kerensa 06-11-78 AS XIII to 12-10-78 AS XIII

Denis III and Trude II 12-10-78 AS XIII to 06-02-79 AS XIV

Nicholas and Frances 06-02-79 AS XIV to 11-17-79 AS XIV

Justin I and Victoria I 11-12-79 AS XIV to 04-12-80 AS XIV

Roger and Elwyn 04-12-80 AS XIV to 11-08-80 AS XV

Trelon I and Faleena 11-08-80 AS XV to 05-16-81 AS XVI

Christopher and Trude 05-16-81 AS XVI to 11-21-81 AS XVI

Thomas II and Anastasia II 11-21-81 AS XVI to 05-15-82 AS XVII

Christopher II & Gabrielle 05-15-82 AS XVII to 11-05-82 AS XVII

Trelon II and Kimie 11-05-82 AS XVII to 04-30-83 AS XVII

Justin II and Hastini 04-30-83 AS XVII to 11-19-83 AS XVIII

Thoronaur and Lucia 11-19-83 AS XVIII to 05-19-84 AS XIX

Rotwulf and Naomi 05-19-84 AS XIX to 11-17-84 AS XIX

Lei Chiang Jen and Aurora 11-17-84 AS XIX to 05-19-85 AS XX

Justin III and Victoria II 05-19-85 AS XIX to 11-16-85 AS XX

Elric and Camelen 11-16-85 AS XX to 05-17-86 AS XXI

Mathghamhain and Fiona 05-17-86 AS XXI to 07-19-86 AS XXI

(resigned )

Regency of Viscount Elric ap Moray

Justin IV and Victoria III 09-21-86 AS XXI to 03-21-87 AS XXI

Mathghamhain and Clea 03-21-87 AS XXI to 09-19-87 AS XXII

Eldrid and Dorinda 09-19-87 AS XXII to 03-19-88 AS XXII

Mark and Jacqueline 03-19-88 AS XXII to 09-17-88 AS XXIII

Adam and Eirianedd 09-17-88 AS XXIII to 03-18-89 AS XXIII

Gilbert and Brynhilde 03-18-89 AS XXIII to 09-16-89 AS XXIV

Danu and Malinda 09-16-89 AS XXIV to 03-17-90 AS XXIV

Justin V and Victoria IV 03-17-90 AS XXIV to 09-18-90 AS XXV

Ulric and Elaina 09-18-90 AS XXV to

Arik and Roslynne



King and Queen from to


Richard and Felicia 01/16/71 AS V to 06/22/71 AS VI

Felicia MacCluarain aka "Great White Elephant."

Atenveldt covers 27 states of the USA, from the Colorado River

to the Atlantic Ocean. There is talk of "Manifest Destiny,"

but Calafia goes with the West.

Richard (Ironsteed) had no thought of entering the first Crown,

and hadn't even brought his own armor that day....but he wound

up fighting anyway, and winning the first Crown of the Kingdom

of Atenveldt.

The custom of "finking the King" grew, being a car FULL of SCA

types pulling up to the King's home in the middle of the night,

jumping out and shouting, in unison, "THE KING IS A FINK!" and

then tearing away as fast as possible.....


Arthur and Irving 06/22/71 AS VI to 12/03/71 AS VI

Irving MacChluarain. This name was "hung" on her in a demented

game of Monopoly at Weldon House one night.

Weldon House was an SCA "commune" where most of the Hot Sticks

lived, at one time or another. The trebuchet was set up in the

front yard, to the amazement of passers-by, at 32nd St and

Weldon, Phoenix AZ. Michael of Moria got pretty drunk one night

and began to swing back and forth on the end of the trebuchet's

arm. All the other SCA folk at Weldon House that night (about

15 people) got tiki-torches, rakes and pitchforks and gathered

round the base, at which point Michael began doing his Cornered

Frankenstein Monster act, growling and pawing at the

mob......the mundanes marveled at the scene.

Joseph and Kathleen 12/03/71 AS VI to 06/??/72 AS VII

Kathleen MacChluarain.

Joseph was the only un-belted King of Atenveldt. He had his

origins in the Weldon House crowd, but was on the outs with

them. This caused many problems.

Stephen and Shannon 06/??/72 AS VII to 12/03/72 AS VII

Won the Crown at his first Tourney.

Belted on the field.

First codification of Kingdom Law.

Monster Milk-And-Cookies: someone, usually the Lady or the

Chatelaine of House Locksley, would walk out onto the Tourney

field (usually in the middle of the excitement) with a plate of

milk and chocolate chip cookies. She would then shout "COOKIE"

and step back. The Locksley Monsters would take over the field

and eat cookies and drink milk while someone read them a nice

children's an average weight of 250-300 lbs. each

(out of armour), who would argue with them?

Arthur and Lorelei 12/03/72 AS VII to 04/14/73 AS VII

Lorelei of Zagamar, aka "Hot Flash." She was the quintessence

of "cute," "beautiful" and "nice," all at the same time.

We used to go into the Village Inn pizza parlor on Apache Blvd.

in Tempe after Tourneys. This was also the hangout of the local

frat-rats. Picture Baron Sir Ivanof von Schloss, in full Roman

armour, kicking open the door, shouting "Wine for my horses and

fodder for my men!" throwing a waitress over his shoulder and

demanding the back-room for the SCA folks. We always got it.


Reynard and Kathleen 04/14/73 AS VII to 09/29/73 AS VIII

Kathleen MacChluarain

Monster Ball....this was developed by the Locksley Monsters,

being either a) passing a lady back and forth (throwing her

to each of them across a circle of Monsters (yes, they were

THAT big), or playing with Deaton's 250 lb. anvil, or play-

ing "Aten Football" using a Volkswagen or something like a

tree-trunk as the "ball" and playing it in armour, with

melee rules....pretty crazy stuff.

Reynard tended to be pretty crazed. There was talk of the

"Reynard Doll: wind it up and it wins the Tourney." He was

-blindingly- fast on the Field. He liked to "play ape" and

swing about in trees, hooting and gibbering.

The first Crusadene King. The "Crusadenes" wore tabards of

"Argent, a Latin Cross gules," and, originally, had sworn to

make pilgrimage to Jerusalem and stand vigil over the Holy

Sepulcher, in armour, for 24 hours.

Robert and Sequora 09/29/73 AS VIII to 06/22/74 AS IX

Sequora of Zagamar

Reynard II and Kathleen II 06/22/74 AS IX to 01/12/75 AS IX

Robert II and Sequora II 01/12/75 AS IX to 06/22/75 AS X

First Grand Outlandish (?)

Tyr Ysgithyr becomes a Barony.

Pontius and Sharazon 06/22/75 AS X to 12/13/75 AS X

Not actually from the Weldon House crowd, but ran with them.

The Dark Horde appears in Atenveldt.

The Dwarves appear in the Outlands.

Denis and Samantha 12/13/75 AS X to 06/06/76 AS XI

Denis rips in two and eats Deaton's rattan broadsword, thereby

giving the Locksley Monsters a BIG reputation....

The first Locksley King.

The second Crusadene King.

Caid Invasion (about four minutes into opening Court....and

live steel came out (well? It's what -we- wear at Court!)


Deaton I and Care Cheri I 06/06/76 AS XI to 12/18/76 AS XI

Care Cheri is a MacChluarain, too. Too many sheep here!

The third Crusadene King.

Jonathan and Lyn 12/18/76 AS XI to 03/13/77 AS XI

The fourth Crusadene King.

Abdicated at first Caid Invitational at Estrella Park, the

first Estrella War (not counted in Estrella War numbering


Principality of Atenveldt renamed The Sun, and a separate

Coronet List established.


Regency of Deaton Claymore (1st in SCA)

Tourney was "chaired" but not "reigned over" by Ioseph of

Locksley, then Laurel King of Arms. Deaton did not wish to

enter, but the fighters there present requested him to do so.

There were 66 fighters in this List. Deaton defeated Denis for

the Crown in a light rain. As the final blow was struck, a

rainbow appeared over their shoulders.

Deaton II and Care Cheri II 03/13/77 AS XI to 08/13/77 AS XII

Meridies becomes a Kingdom. Deaton and Care's Ducal Coronets

cost them an estimated $11,000 in expenses. Deaton crushed a

helm in his hands in Ansteorra and promptly wrote new armor



Ton and Elizabeth 08/13/77 AS XII to 12/17/77 AS XII

The first of the Outlands Kings. Ton got his start in Ysgithyr,

and did NOT like the "power people" in the Sun. This caused

problems in his reign that continued over to many of the other

Outlands Kings of Atenveldt.

Koris and Leah 12/17/77 AS XII to 05/06/78 AS XIII

Amayot and Ivanof von Schloss joust on motorcycles at Crown.

Johann and Malinda 05/06/78 AS XIII to 09/09/78 AS XIII

Jonathon and Willow 09/09/78 AS XIII to 03/03/79 AS XIII

The Crown goes to Ansteorra.

Burro Creek War....Aten vs Caid.

Theo and Selene 03/03/79 AS XIII to 07/21/79 AS XIV

The Crown comes back to the Outlands.

Koris II and Leah II 07/21/79 AS XIV to 01/05/80 AS XIV

Heinrich and Sara 01/05/80 AS XIV to 06/07/80 AS XV

Ansteorra becomes a Kingdom. (?)

Einrich and Shaleaya 06/07/80 AS XV to 12/06/80 AS XV

Johann II and Malinda II 12/06/80 AS XV to 06/20/81 AS XVI

Albert and Selene 06/20/81 AS XVI to 12/05/81 AS XVI

Clan Shadowcat appears, and the Kingdom climbs a tree....

Amayot and Kerensa 12/05/81 AS XVI to 05/30/82 AS XVII

The Sun takes back the Crown.

The last Crusadene King.

The second Locksley King.

(The so-called "BannerGate")

Burro Creek War the Last; Deaton finds himself surrounded by

about 30 Caidans, and kills them all in an incredible display

of SCA combat.

Einrich II and Myrby 05/30/82 AS XVII to 12/04/82 AS XVII

And the Outlands takes it back again....

Dafydd and Lyn 12/04/82 AS XVII to 06/04/83 AS XVIII

And the Sun takes it back.

(The so-called "BaronGate")

Catbox War I.....Aten vs Caid. Appearance of Rolling Thunder.

Christopher and Constance 06/04/83 AS XVIII to 12/03/83 AS XVIII

SunDragon becomes a Barony.

Trelon I and Trude 12/03/83 AS XVIII to 06/02/84 AS XIX

Catbox War II.....Aten vs Caid.

Freana and Richenda 06/02/84 AS XIX to 12/01/84 AS XIX

Micah and Thamzine 12/01/84 AS XIX to 06/01/85 AS XX

Estrella I....Aten vs Caid.


Brion and Adrianna 06/01/85 AS XX to 12/07/85 AS XX

Death of Queen Adrianna: Every florist in Utah is sold out of

roses, as they -all- had been sent to the funeral. She is

buried in her regalia as Countess, and the entire Kingdom is in


Trelon II and Daphne 12/07/85 AS XX to 06/07/86 AS XXI

Estrella II ....Aten vs Caid.

Brion II and Anna 06/07/86 AS XXI to 12/06/86 AS XXI

Trelon III and Daphne II 12/06/86 AS XXI to 06/06/87 AS XXII

A lawsuit is filed against the SCA. Elric ap Moray literally

saves the Society with his legal work.

Outlands becomes a Kingdom.

Estrella III....Aten vs Caid.

Brion III and Anna II 06/06/87 AS XXII to 12/05/87 AS XXII

Artemisia becomes a Principality. Thorfinn is first Prince.


Kveldulfr and Briony 12/05/87 AS XXII to 06/04/88 AS XXIII

Estrella IV....Aten vs Caid.


Brion IV and Anna III 06/04/88 AS XXIII to 12/03/88 AS XXIII

Trelon IV and Daphne III 12/03/88 AS XXIII to 09/03/89 AS XXIV

The Great Beheading.

Estrella V ....Aten vs Caid.

Brion V and Anna IV 09/03/89 AS XXIV to 03/10/90 AS XXIV

Estrella VI ....Aten vs Caid.

Johnathan Whytewolfe brings a Great Mucking Cannon to the War.

Caid is -very- surprised!


Mark I and Jaquelline I 03/10/90 AS XXIV to 09/01/90 AS XXV

Aten-Outlands War.


Thorfinn I and Sarah I 09/01/90 AS XXV to 03/??/91 AS XXV

Estrella VII ....Aten vs Caid.

Brion VI and Anna V 03/??/91 AS XXV to 09/07/91 AS XXVI

Thorfinn II and Sarah II 09/07/91 AS XXVI to 03/ /92 AS XXVI

Mark II and Jaquelline II 03/ /92 AS XXVI to AS XXVII


Respectfully submitted, with apoligies for my aged and decrepit memory:

(please correct me if I am wrong in dating)

-Ioseph of Locksley

needed: when did Mons Tinitris become a Barony?

when did Loch Salann and 1000 Eyes become Baronies?


From: sandradodd at (SandraDodd)


Subject: Re: Crowns, Coronets, & Law

Date: 12 Nov 1994 13:40:38 -0500

Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

In article <3a0dcn$7r6 at>, blktauna at (Donna Bowers)

writes: <

a coronet and telling a whole kingdom they have to change their rules are

two entirely different things...

As far as this Easterner is concerned, your kingdom is yours to run as

you please, I just wanted to know why that particular custom came about

and how those two metal items could be confused with each other. >>
I actually know the answer to the question: Many years ago, when there

were five kingdoms and Caid and Ansteorra were just about to become

independent, Atenveldt was deciding about coronets, at the request of the

steward (Bevin Fraser) and because of a few minor misunderstandings about

viscounts and "crown barons" (don't ask) and so there were discussions,and

drafts, and influential campaigners. I was Seneschal of Atenveldt, but

not yet a peer. Baldwin of Erebor was Aten Herald and maybe had just

become a peer, but maybe not quite yet.

There were countesses and duchesses in a certain influential neighborhood

(not mine) who were accustomed to wearing decorative wires (1/8 inch

bands) as their coronets, and they neither had nor wanted fancier


This, I believe, without the filling in of any particular gossipy details,

is the basis of the situation. It ended up affecting the Outlands, but

not Ansteorra, as Ansteorra was too busy hatching their new kingdom to pay

attention to this round of discussions. Ansteorra allows coronets for

AoA's (I believe) and *elaborate* coronets for Court Barons.
AElflaed of Duckford, feeling suddenly really old

From: djheydt at (Dorothy J Heydt)


Subject: Re: Kingdoms that used to be in the East Kingdom

Date: 3 Jul 1996 22:23:34 GMT

Organization: University of California at Berkeley

[Hal posting from Dorothy's account....]
In article <4re4gj$m71 at>, C. Clark wrote:

>Principality of Atenveldt (which soon turned into a

Atenveldt started as a Barony of the West. They petitioned to

become a Principality a few years later, and eventually became

the first kingdom to be formally split off from an existing

--Hal Ravn

(Hal Heydt)

From: amazing at (dennis grace)

To: bryn-gwlad at

Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:47:26 -0500

Subject: Re: From the Seneschale
Warlord Dieter wrote:

>With the support of the southern principality and the new vigor that these

>factors produce in the populus, the principality grew both in membership and

>in other intangible ways- (Sir Lyonel, I think you might best cover this

>area) Artemesia became a proud place with a strong membership despite the

>low population density.

And I must concur. It's hard to argue with the facts.
The region of Artemisia, despite including Montana, Utah, all of Idaho but

the panhandle, and the Western Slope portions of Wyoming and Colorado, only

tenuously had the necessary population to maintain a principality (circa

1986). We had one barony (Loch Salann, in Salt Lake City); active, healthy

shires only in Green River, Idaho Falls, Boise, Bozeman, and Missoula; and

incipient shires or dying shires in another perhaps ten small cities. The

fact of our sparse population had many in the BoD convinced we'd never be

able to maintain the numbers necessary to retain Principality status.

We made becoming a principality our rallying cry. First, we established the

Barony of 1000 Eyes in Idaho Falls, an effort which, itself, required much

rallying and crying (after all, Idaho Falls only has a polulation of

50,000). Shortly thereafter, with concerted efforts at recruitment, demos,

and advertising, we boosted the regional population to 275 in time for

consideration for principality status. In the next few months, Sentinels

Keep (Missoula) and Arn Hold (Boise) advanced to baronial status and the

number of active shires doubled. I know this might seem to verify one of

the frequently expressed fears concerning principality formation, but the

Principality of Artemisia is now about to become the Kingdom of Artemisia;

they have their first Crown Tourney scheduled for April. (Artemisia's

reasons for the split have nothing to do with their status as a

Principality, but I think the impending split gives a good idea of their

growth since becoming a principality).

Yours in Virtual Service
Sir Lyonel Oliver Grace, Thegn 1000 Eyes


Dennis G. Grace

Assistant Instructor

Postmodern Medievalist

Division of Rhetoric and Composition

University of Texas

From: "Sandra B. McDaniel"


Subject: Re: Kingdom names

Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:10:12 -0700
> > The name was made up from the Egyptian "aten" for "sun" and Dutch(?)

> > "veldt" for "plains".


> Those were the glory days of SCA name-creation. :-)


> Finnvarr

Like many other things in the SCA, Atenveldt's name was chosen on the

spur of the moment. Richard Ironsteed was encouraged to choose a name,

(preferably non-directional) "right now". For reasons unknown to Rick or

anybody else back then, it was pronounced with the long 'A' from the


Subject: ANST - Atenveldt History

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 99 13:05:49 MST

From: leigh- at

To: ansteorra at Ansteorra.ORG, artemisia at,

atenveldt at,

sca-caid at, outlands at,

sca-east at, sca-chroniclers at

Chronicle of Atenveldt
History of the Kingdom from 1969 to 1995, including all the

Principalities that once were part of the Kingdom and are now Kingdoms

Perma-bound with a color cover, the book contains not only the

history, but the reigns of all kings and queens, princes and

princesses of all principalities, cartoons which appeared in various

issues of Southwind. All the major kingdom office holders are listed,

plus early hard suit fighting rules, archery rules, rapier rules, a

section devoted to the Military History of the Kingdom, which includes

accounts of Estrella Wars.
364 pages, 8*x11, compiled by Mistress Catriona Macpherson,

AKA Milly McCloskey.

Copies are available (at cost) from Milly McCloskey, 14228 N. 45h

Drive, Glendale AZ 85306-4500 for $10.00 plus $4.00 shipping/handling.

There are a limited number of copies available and this is the last

printing. This volume is useful for fairly new members to learn about

their kingdom and a perfect way for older members to reminisce.

Email replies to millymcc at

From: katerinfg at (Kathy Fitz)


Subject: Atenveldt regalia stolen

Date: 30 Oct 2003 11:11:30 -0800

Forwarded from the Middlebridge:
Count Denis of the Titans writes:
His Majesty of Atenveldt has suffered a theft of regalia from his

vehicle. Missing are the King's crown and signet ring, the sword of

state and other items. Would those of you who follow on-line auctions

please be on the look-out for these items. Thank you.

Denis of the Titans - Atenveldt
Unto the populace who read these letters ~
It is with great sadness that we tell you our vehicle was broken

into and in addition to our personal belongings, several items of

regalia were stolen including:
His Majesties Crown and Signet Ring, King's Blood, the Kingdom

Scroll Case and the very beautiful blue velvet banners.

We are heartbroken and, of course, frantically contacting pawn shops

across the valley (after extensive descriptions with the police and

an immediate claim to our homeowners insurance.) We wish it known

that in NO WAY do we believe this was done by an SCA person, and let

us all pray that these items show up on EBay or in a pawn shop so

that they may be retrieved. We thank those of you who have been so

patient and supportive as we have been advising people along the way

of the incident.

So much for this being the easy week, but it's better than a million

other things that could have happened.

Erick and Nichelle

Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT)

From: Pat

Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: Creative Supplimentation

To: SCA Cooks
I started in the SCA in Atenveldt (Greater Phoenix, AZ). There are

three baronies, a College, and a Shire all within an hours drive, but

the rest of the Kingdom is spread out over a huge area. (There are

nearly 5 million people in Arizona, but 3 million of them live in the GPA).

Weekend camping events are the norm. A few of the larger summer time

events are held in Halls, with no camping (ever try sleeping in a tent

when the midnight temperature is over 100 degrees F.?) The camping

events seemed to be about 50/50 with feasts, and the Hall events all

had feasts. Sometimes the camping feasts were included with the site

fee, the Hall events very seldom included feast with the site fee.

Because Atenveldt is a predominantly urban population, supplementing

with wild game or home grown vegetables was seldom done, although

locally grown lamb has been used.
I moved to Meridies two years ago. My biggest culture shock was

finding that weekend events here almost always include cabins, and

people are reluctant to attend camping events in more primitive

settings where cabins are not available. How can cement block cabins

and swimming pools onsite add to the Medieval atmosphere? Also, the

population is much more spread out, and one does not get the

opportunity to fraternize with royalty that one experiences in


Pat Griffin

Lady Anne du Bosc

known as Mordonna the Cook

Shire of Thorngill, Meridies

Mundanely, Millbrook, AL

From: Douglas Schreffler

Date: August 30, 2006 3:19:25 PM CDT

To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad

Subject: [Bryn-gwlad] Lord Douglas' Fractured History O' Combat Archery
As a historical aside;

I had the dubious privilege of being present when combat archery was first attempted (I think) back in '73 or '74 at the Second Burro Creek War between the Kingdom of the West and the Kingdom of Atenveldt (I think it became the Estrella War, which sounds better). I was in the Principality of Caid, fighting against a bunch of people from the uncouth name of the Principality of Ansteorra. As Uther had mentioned, this was before authorizations and pretty much before any actual armor requirements. My armor consisted of a Kirby barrel helm (which I still have), hockey gloves, and "armor" with the powder blue shag carpeting inside and "Monsanto Wearever" boldly blazoned across my chest. Somebody suggested we try combat archery. There were no poundage limitations on the bows, and nobody had crossbows...though there were some nasty-looking pink neon fiberglass longbows present. Combat arrows consisted of any shaft you happened to have out of whatever material they were made out of, with a disc of foam rubber duck-taped to the top after you sawed off the point. An hour before the first battle, the marshal decided that all fighters must cover all eye and other helm openings with chicken wire. As chicken wire was not readily available at 8am on a Saturday in a rural state park, this resulted in the marshal being stuffed in a convenient dumpster and the battle going forth.

After two very HOT hours of our battle commanders "maneuvering their forces" (they were war-gaming devotees) we found Atenveldt and Ansteorra lined up at the foot of a jeep track leading up to the "castle" (water tank). We stood and yelled naughty things at each other for another 30 minutes. Then, Hagar the Bear, a very large, very furry Caidan, who wore minimal armor and had driven all that way from LA to smack somebody with a rattan club, got "irked". We of Caid and the West, seeking peaceful negotiations, started chanting "Ha-GAR! Ha-GAR!" mostly because we were bored and to egg Hagar on. Hagar went berserk and charged the Atenveldt line, taking out a half-dozen of the opposing force before dying (mostly by landing on them) and opening a hole in the shield wall. The combat archers (all six of them) got one flight off before the rest of Caid and the West ignored their battle commanders and followed Hagar, most of us merrily jumping up and down on the arrows so they couldn't be used again...not that we acknowledged the strikes in the first place.

Caid and the West won gloriously (or, at least, that's what I remembered after several bottles of Ripple Pagan Pink wine) and thus combat archery was born, having developed into what it is today.

So, my recommendation is...anybody know whether Ripple Pagan Pink is still manufactured and where I could buy several cases?

Lord Douglas "Is that a pink neon fiberglass longbow or are you just happy to see me" Lion.

From: Chris Zakes

Date: August 30, 2006 5:05:20 PM CDT

To: Barony of Bryn Gwlad

Subject: Re: [Bryn-gwlad] Lord Douglas' Fractured History O' Combat

> As a historical aside;


> I had the dubious privilege of being present when combat archery was

> first attempted (I think) back in '73 or '74 at the Second Burro

> Creek War between the Kingdom of the West and the Kingdom of

> Atenveldt (I think it became the Estrella War, which sounds better).
The first Burro Creek War was in February of AS 12--1978 (I have some

rather painful memories of the drive out there and back in a couple

of RV's towing trailers full of gear) so #2 would have been in 1979.

I'd made up several dozen combat arrows for Burro Creek 1, only to be

told when we got there that combat archery wouldn't be allowed.
> I was in the Principality of Caid, fighting against a bunch of

> people from the uncouth name of the Principality of Ansteorra. As

> Uther had mentioned, this was before authorizations and pretty much

> before any actual armor requirements. My armor consisted of a

> Kirby barrel helm (which I still have), hockey gloves, and "armor"

> with the powder blue shag carpeting inside and "Monsanto Wearever"

> boldly blazoned across my chest. Somebody suggested we try combat

> archery. There were no poundage limitations on the bows, and

> nobody had crossbows...though there were some nasty-looking pink

> neon fiberglass longbows present. Combat arrows consisted of any

> shaft you happened to have out of whatever material they were made

> out of, with a disc of foam rubber duck-taped to the top after you

> sawed off the point. An hour before the first battle, the marshal

> decided that all fighters must cover all eye and other helm

> openings with chicken wire. As chicken wire was not readily

> available at 8am on a Saturday in a rural state park, this resulted

> in the marshal being stuffed in a convenient dumpster and the

> battle going forth.

There actually *was* combat archery happening before that--one of my

first events was a "Clan War" at Buescher State Park over Labor Day

weekend in AS 11, which had combat archery in several melees. At that

event, the archers had to wear fencing masks and were "touch kill"

for the armored fighters. Most arrows has 2" solid rubber balls

fiber-taped in place for heads, which made bounce-backs *really*

exciting if they hit something solid. As you said, there weren't any

real rules for things like bow poundage or armor requirements. (Hey,

most of us were college kids, which meant we were immortal, right?

) In March of AS 11, the Society Marshal, Duke Andrew of Seldom

Rest, issued a ban on, among other things, fencing and archery at

human targets, which implies that combat archery was happening in

more places than just proto-Ansteorra.

> After two very HOT hours of our battle commanders "maneuvering

> their forces" (they were war-gaming devotees) we found Atenveldt

> and Ansteorra lined up at the foot of a jeep track leading up to

> the "castle" (water tank).

Oh, lord, I remember that from Burro Creek 1: marching here, marching

there, marching somewhere else in the sand and cactus for quite a

long time before anybody got to throw a blow. Fortunately I was

marshalling, rather than fighting, so It wasn't as bad as the woods

battle at Gulf War 1.
-Tivar Moondragon


(I wonder if mastadons would qualify as targets in the Hunt?)

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