My previous blog post/s on the issue of caste and liberty were in relation to pretend "Hindus" who believe in the caste system because they can exploit cheap labour.
Hitesh Rangra tells me that believers in Hindutva are not pretend Hindus and actuallyoppose the caste system. Here's a set of tweets on this subject. Read from the bottom up (this is listed with the most recent first)
sabhlok: @hiteshrangra The discussion is not about "Hindutva" but about pretend "Hindus". I'm glad we both oppose caste.
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :Sanjeev Jee one fact most of RSS volunteer of RSS and leaders are not even on internet. They believe in working rather than media
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :- Most of top leader of RSS are from so called lower caste(as we don't believe in caste system).
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :- Because every time people talk about Hindutva movement they point finger towards RSS.There is nothing like caste exist there
sabhlok: @hiteshrangra Hindutva has a "high" mind (at times) and low, dirty tactics on the ground. I'm talking about all pretend "Hindus".
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :- There is nothing like caste exist in Hindutva movement. Without knowing organization how can you say like this??
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :- Hindutva fanatics who can't live without chamars, bhangis and other such slaves? Dear we are one who hate Caste system.
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :- Please don't malign Hinduism for caste system.It was created by everyone knows whom.
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :-"if untouchability is not wrong, nothing in the world is wrong"–Madhukar Dattatraya Deoras
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :- It needs effort from each and everyone.
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :- We don't believe in caste sir every human blood is red as common component in our blood is Fe(iron) nothing else.
sabhlok: @hiteshrangra Hitesh The caste system is evil regardless of who or when it was started. It is this evil that I invite you to destroy.
hiteshrangra: @sabhlok :-Dear it was Herbert Hope Risley who supported William Jones Aryan Race theory to create caste system.
On the other hand, I do have this extract from my compilation on RSS made a few years ago (see below). [In this context I must add that RSS is not necessarily representative of Hindutva, which is a philosophy with no organisational ownership. It is best associated with the famous Indian atheist, Vinayak Savarkar of the Hindu Mahasabha. Hindutva seems to be a very malleable philosophy, that can be moulded to suit the proponent's beliefs.]
Connivance and promotion of caste system
1. "Although 'hierarchy' and 'discrimination' are criticized by Golwalkar, for example, the idea that people are born into a particular occupation seems to be tacitly accepted: . .. [T]he distinctions in the social order did not imply any discrimination of big or small, high or low, among its constituents. On the other hand, the Gita tells us that the individual who does his assigned duties in life in a spirit of selfless service only worships Gods through such performance (Golwalkar 1966: I07, in Andersen and Damle 1987: 8i, emphasis added). … [T]he leadership of the organization remains distinctly Brahmin (Andersen and Damle 1987: 45)." [Joseph S. Alter, ‘Somatic Nationalism: Indian Wrestling and Militant Hinduism, Modern Asian Studies, Vol. 28, No. 3 (Jul., 1994), pp. 557-588]
2. "Following the elite, upper-caste base of anushilan, the initial RSS volunteers were Nagpur Brahmins." [Milind Wakankar, 'Body, Crowd, Identity: Genealogy of a Hindu Nationalist Ascetics, Social Text, No. 45 (Winter, 1995), pp. 45-73] [Source]
19.But still some support for caste? - unclear
Connivance and promotion of caste system 1. “Although ‘hierarchy’ and ‘discrimination’ are criticized by Golwalkar, for example, the idea that people are born into a particular occupation seems to be tacitly accepted: . .. [T]he distinctions in the social order did not imply any discrimination of big or small, high or low, among its constituents. On the other hand, the Gita tells us that the individual who does his assigned duties in life in a spirit of selfless service only worships Gods through such performance (Golwalkar 1966: I07, in Andersen and Damle 1987: 8i, emphasis added). … [T]he leadership of the organization remains distinctly Brahmin (Andersen and Damle 1987: 45).” [Joseph S. Alter, ‘Somatic Nationalism: Indian Wrestling and Militant Hinduism, Modern Asian Studies, Vol. 28, No. 3 (Jul., 1994), pp. 557-588]
2. “Following the elite, upper-caste base of anushilan, the initial RSS volunteers were Nagpur Brahmins.” [Milind Wakankar, ‘Body, Crowd, Identity: Genealogy of a Hindu Nationalist Ascetics, Social Text, No. 45 (Winter, 1995), pp. 45-73]
19.1Shantanu Bhagwat’s view
Addendum 8 June 2009. This blog post has been discussed at length on Shantanu’s blog post of June 5 2009. Shanatanu doesn’t agree that I have made the case against RSS.Therefore, please be sure to form your own opinion after reading and understanding all the facts – and that includes material linked through Shantanu’s blog!
20.Comments on “R.S.S.: A Vision in Action” edited by H.V. Seshadri
Twitter friend Shekhar has requested me to read the above book, available here. A few quick comments.
Their abjuring the caste system – I fully support:
In 1934, when Gandhiji visited a 1500-strong Swayamsevaks camp at Wardha, he was pleasantly surprised to find that the Swayamsevaks were not even aware of the castes of one another, not to speak of any ideas of untouchability. [Source]
There is also one thing I can sympathise with:
It was to be expected that the rising Hindu awareness would not leave the political field unaffected. Now, slowly, the Hindus have begun to comprehend the threats being posed by the hankering of political parties after the Muslim and Christian bloc votes which is seriously jeopardising the integrity of the nation. The irony of the situation in which theso-called minorities enjoy more rights in educational and religious affairs than the majority Hindus has now dawned upon them. The Hindus have also begun to recognise that the chief reason behind this perversion lies in their own disunity. Their splintered vote had left them voiceless orphans in the political arena. [Source]
This idea of creating minorities and majorities is anathema to a free society. Recognising people's religious beliefs by a government is even worse. There is need to revoke any such laws which are based on religion, whether minority or majority. We need a stern system which follows the rule of law. No special dispensations based on religious preferences.
20.2What is well intentioned about RSS but divisive
And there are assertions that RSS has space for other religions, too.
The positive concept of social consolidation envisaged by Sangh has room for the Muslims and Christians of this country also. The Sangh harbours no hatred for anyone merely because he belongs to a different faith. The word 'Hindu', in Sangh's view, connotes the national entity of Bharat and not merely a religious faith. In this broad national sense, whoever identifies himself with this national life-current, irrespective of his creed, is a 'Hindu'. In simple terms, identification with the national mainstream of our country means: unalloyed devotion to the Motherland, a spirit of fraternity and identification of one's interests with all the rest of the countrymen and an attitude of adoration towards the great nation-builders, past and recent, and the values of life bequeathed to us by them. [Source]
Now the problem with this is self-evident. What about these the following alternative definitions?
1) The word 'Hindu', in Sangh's view, connotes the national entity of Bharat and not merely a religious faith. In this broad national sense, whoever identifies himself with this national life-current, irrespective of his creed, is a 'Hindu'.
2) The word 'Christian', in Sangh's view, connotes the national entity of Bharat and not merely a religious faith. In this broad national sense, whoever identifies himself with this national life-current, irrespective of his creed, is a 'Christian'.
3) The word 'Muslim', in Sangh's view, connotes the national entity of Bharat and not merely a religious faith. In this broad national sense, whoever identifies himself with this national life-current, irrespective of his creed, is a 'Muslim'.
My question to RSS is: Are you all happy if I call you Muslims? You are basically lying, aren't you!? You want to have the cake and eat it too.
20.3The actual core of the RSS: preventing conversions
There is almost fanatic focus in the RSS on prevention of "conversions" from Hinduism.
This arises from a misplaced concern that Hinduism needs protection. But in reality, only the untruth needs protection. The truth will find its own way.
For instance, after wandering far and wide with an open mind, examining various hypotheses about God with both mind and heart, I have come to the view that all religious explanations are defective. But that if there is anytruth it would have to be somewhere on the lines of Advaita, with a good measure of Buddhist and Charvakan scepticism thrown in.
I've been undertaking a rational search, and don't need (indeed firmly RESIST!) any attempt by any "priest" or "religious organisation" to force ideas on my mind. The idea that someone or some group can expect humans (particularly thinking people like me) to fit into its "category" of Hindu is absurd. I've come to the view that there is much merit in some of the schools of thought of Inida. Whether you call it Hinduism or anything else doesn't really matter. I do not like my philosophy of God (if any) to be labelled. Spare me your prattle and leave me alone.
So the point here is that if there is ANY truth in something, it will utlimately stand on its own feet. You don't need to run after it! The entire RSS effort in this regard is misplaced.
The key issue in India is IGNORANCE and lack of education which leads also to lack of critical thinking and inability to sort out the right from the wrong. Indian children need to be taught CRITCAL THINKING, not a particular set of beliefs.
Now, RSS, which makes a big deal about converstions, claims to follow Vivekananda. But Vivekananda made clear that although he did not approve of proselytisation, he tolerated it. He was sure that the system he stood for (Hinduism) was strong enough to face any challenge.
In an article in The Detroit Free Press in 1894, he is quoted as having said: ‘I belong to the Hindu religion… We never indulged in missionary work. The fundamental principles of our religion forbid that. Nor do we say anything against any missionaries whom you send from this country [USA] anywhere.’ A question was put to him by The Hindu(Madras) in February 1897: ‘Question: Does the spirit of Hinduism permit the proselytism of strangers into it?’ He replied, unambiguously: ‘Proselytism is tolerated by Hinduism.’
The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, Calcutta: Advaita Ashram, 1989 , vol. 7, p.287.
The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, Calcutta: Advaita Ashram, 1989 , vol. 5, p.208-09.
More importantly, Vivekananda was happy for his own son (had he had one) to be a Muslim. He had is a truly liberal approach. He would have been least bothered about the precise name of the religion his son believed in. It would have been good enough to Vivekananda that his son was a good man. Why does the way we think about our relationship (if any) with God matter? ONLY actions matter. Only character matters.
In place of this very broad and scientific approach, H.V. Seshadri calls proselytisation MISCHIEF.
Observance of Indal Pooja, a traditional festival in Madhya Pradesh, had been abandoned by the vanavasis because of the enormous expenditure it involved. The Christian missionaries had stepped in and begun arranging the Pooja in their Church, with a view to bringing the innocent Hindu vanavasis under their net. The VKA stopped the mischiefby organising the Pooja in its pristine form and with minimum expense. [Source]
As a result of these efforts, the spectre of mass conversion was laid low in Tamil Nadu even though stray cases are still being reported from far-flung villages. But whenever such news leaks out, alert Hindu workers reach there promptly to stop further mischief. For example, in Sivakashi, there was to be a mass baptism. When the news reached the Swayamsevaks they rushed to the place and saw to it that not a single Hindu left the Hindu fold. A most encouraging feature was that the local Hindu population also stood by the Swayamsevaks as one man in this attempt to save their Hindu brethren. [Source]
Hinduism (if by that is meant the broader Indian tradition) is NOT rituals or particular forms of worship. It is a WAY OF LIFE, a way of thinking about things that is totally unperturbed by silly concepts invented by other "religions" – concepts like heaven or hell, concepts like the body being required by the 'soul' at the time of 'glorification' ["God created man as a union of body and soul and our redemption includes the redemption of the body as well as the soul. This full redemption will occur at the last day in our glorification"], or that there are 'houris' in heaven!
Hinduism (or the broad philosophical of India) is a way of life that looks within through calm meditation. It is a system that asks questions even of its own "sacred" books like the Vedas (Vivekanada rejected any part of the Vedas he did not agree with).
Hinduism is freedom itself – once this broader understanding is applied.
So fear not for Hinduism! This way of thinking will incrementally spread but it will NOT be known as Hinduism.
It will be known as freedom and self-awareness. Let RSS calm down and focus on spreading EDUCATION across India. Forget the "Muslims" and "others". Many of them (like members of most organised religions) are merely suffering from ignorance. To that extent, I greatly appreciate the wonderful work of Ajay Singh's Ekal (Ajay Singh is from RSS).
Joseph A. Curran, Militant Hinduism in Indian Politics: A Study of the RSS, New York, 1951.
Walter K. Anderson and Shridhar D. Damle, The Brotherhood in Saffron: The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and Hindu Revivalism (Boulder, Colo.: Westview, 1987) / (Boulder, Colo: Westview Press, 1986).
THOMAS BLOM HANSEN, The Saffron Wave: Democracy and Hindu Nationalism in Modern India. Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press, 1999. Pp. 293.
A.G. Noorani, The RSS and the BJP: A Division of Labour, New Delhi, Left World Books, 2000.
Profile: Last surviving conspirator in the plot to assassinate Mahatma Gandhi.(1:00-2:00 PM)(Broadcast transcript). Weekend Edition Saturday (July 12, 2003)(736 words)
1 Note: The full text of Golwalkar’s 1939 book, We: Or Our Nationhood Defined, was republished in 2006 as “Golwalkar’s We Or Our Nationhood Defined: A Critique With The Full Text Of The Book” by by Shamsul Islam. [Flipkart]