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OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 2 (continued)
1891 census Lescudjack House Penzance RG12/1857 district 16 folio 127 page 15 schedule 99 from www.freecen.org.co.uk

Ellen-C.

Mitchell

head

single

43




Ilfracombe

Cyril-F.

Mitchell

nephew

single

20

Mining engineer (Shetland)

Calcutta **

Catherine-B.

Mitchell

niece

unmarried

11

scholar

Jabblypore **

Keith-H.

Mitchell

nephew

single

12

scholar

Jabblypore **

Kenneth

Mitchell

nephew

single

10

scholar

Jabblypore **

Dorothy

Mitchell

niece

single

5

scholar

Calcutta **

Clarissa

Wilkins

governess

single

39

governess

Melverne Worcestershire *

Ann

Cotteran

servant

single

40

cook

Ludgvan

Eliza

Owen

servant

single

21

housemaid

Penzance

ELIZABETH

TreZenza

servant

single

16

housemaid

Penzance

* = Malvern ? ** India
1861 census Tremelling St Erth RG9/1588 district 9 folio 12 page 18 schedule 75 from www.freecen.org.co.uk

John

Rodgers

head

married

55

farmer 59 acres *

Cornwall St Mewan

Johanna

Rodgers

wife

married

54




Cornwall St Stephens

Johanna

Body

niece

unmarried

21

dairy maid

Cornwall St Stephens

AMOS

Tregenza

servant

unmarried

18

general servant

Cornwall St Mewan

* employs 1 labourer and 2 boys
OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 2 (continued)
Lease 05DEC1808 (read in Exeter Record Office)

  1. Francis Rodd of Trebartha Hall Cornwall Esquire

  2. Amos Tregenza of St Hilary labourer

Wastrel containing land part of Treven Rent 5 shillings counterpart lease

Lives Amos Tregenza age 29

Sarah his wife age 28

Amos their son age 8



AMOS married Sarah Williams and Grace Johns (St Erth Family 1)

Formerly it was thought that AMOS 1800 of this family after a first marriage (of which there is no information or children found) married for a second time to Grace Johns giving rise to all the children CHRISTIAN-JOHN 1832 to EDWIN-JOHN1847. However subsequently various records about these children and census records gave their father’s birth as around 1779 showing they came from AMOS 1779 not his son AMOS 1800. Several correspondents have commented on the confusion between and separation of records associated with these two AMOSs. Redrawing the tree resolves the problems of the missing first wife of AMOS 1800 and makes use of the record showing the death of SARAH Torgenzoe buried 06JAN1829 St Erth age 50 (first wife of AMOS 1779). It also gives logical dates for all the people in these families. Thus AMOS 1779 had children about as frequently as was biologically possible for his wives with the exception of a period from 1802 to 1811. His first child AMOS 1800 was born nine months after his first marriage and his last child EDWIN-JOHN 1847 born only ten months before his death in 1848. The gap in births is neatly filled by Unconnected Family 71 St Hilary as suggested by Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net. Although the wife’s name is SALLY, the use of Sally as an alternative to Sarah was frequent and also could be a recording error considering the daughter was called SALLY. St Hilary is close to St Erth and the lease of 1808 (please see above) is in St Hilary. Thus this Unconnected Family is fitted in here. SARAH the first wife of AMOS 1779 may have died in childbirth as CATHERINE was born 1829 approx.).

Note:


  1. the use of the first and surname of the first and second mother in the first names of the children.

  2. the use of the surname Torgenzoe, Tregenzoe or similar.

  3. the absence of further information about AMOS baptised 1800 could be explained by his being the head of Unconnected Family 64 where he married around age 21 in Canada (as suggested by a member of that family)

  4. CHRISTIAN-JOHN baptised 1832 and described as female later married a man.

OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 2 (continued)
SARAH 1846 conflicting information received about her surname
1. SARAH BIRCH illegitimate child of JOSEPH RUSSELL of Yorkshire. AMOS (which ?) shot him (source Mrs Isabella Bentley née Tregenza).

2. SARAH BIRCH daughter of JAMES HENRY BIRCH and REBECCA of Sturt St Erth (source Hambley-Rowe via CHARLES-WILFRID Tregenza).

3. SARAH RUSSELL age 30 father PERKS (no first name given) married AMOS TREGENZA age 31, father AMOS TREGENZA (source Penzance record no. 171 page 86 Madron 1876).

Note: a. SARAH née Birch father William St Erth Family 5 wife to ROBERT 1830 first cousin to AMOS 1842 St Erth Family 2 married to this SARAH née Russell ?

b. ELEANOR 1841 St Erth Family 5 married 1879 William-James Russell

(also in Pedigree Resource File http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/S5MV-W12)

c. MARY St Erth Family 5 married William Birch

Note:


  • Will 49/1/1/77 in Cornwall Record Office, AMOS son of AMOS and SARAH 1808 St Hilary

  • Story that AMOS 1842 went to Patoni, New Zealand as a gold miner where he found the Kohinoor diamond (see also Unconnected Family 18). Probably mistaken for a gold nugget as that diamond was Indian ! Frequently Cornish miners in Australia or New Zealand sent home stories of big strikes or nuggets. There were entrepreneurial photographers in ports and mining towns that would take your photograph next to a large nugget (painted rock) to convince those back home of your success.

  • Lyn Nash believed that Unconnected Family 71 were also the children of AMOS and SARAH filling the gap between ROBERT 1802 and DANIEL 1811. Finding other records about AMOS his wives and children made this very likely so this change was made - see notes above on AMOS 1800.

  • See Lelant family for census record of AMOS married SARAH and St Erth 6 for JAMES married MARY

  • SARAH 1846 conflicting information received about her surname (see below)

  • Full marriage record of ROBERT 1801 to ELIABETH from Lyn Nash shows some conflicts:

ROBERT TregenzOE full widower labourer St Erth father JAMES TregenzOE labourer

Elizabeth Potter full widow St Erth father Richard Ellis miner

24MAR1850 banns witnesses John Trevaskis and William Christover

EDWARD ST ERTH FAMILY 3

1774

m Grace Luke



______|_____________________________________________________________________________________

EDWARD GRACE ROBERT JOHN GRACE OLIVER-LUKE

1799 1803 1808 1812 1815 1819

m Susannah Bray m1 Jane Hendra

__________________|__________________________________________________________________________ m2 Phillippa Edmonds

SUSANNAH EDWARD MARY-ANNA JOHN GRACE SUSAN-ANN EMILY |

1827 1828 1830 1832 1836 1835 1837 |

m Emma | |

| Tregeskis TIMOTHY 1863 |

________________________________________________|___________________________ |

EDWARD-JOHN MARY-LOUISA SUSAN-ANN EMMA EVERLYN |

1857 1858 1859 1862 1870 |

1_________________________________________________________________________________________2_____|________________________

ELIZABETH MARY MATILDA WILLIAM REBECCA FREDERICK HENRY PHILLIP- ELIZABETH-

1845 -ANNA -JANE -JOHN 1850 1852 1857 1860 BIGGLESTONE BIGGLESTONE

1846 1847 Annie Walker m Honour- 1867 1871

______|____________ Tabitha m Eliza-Ann

WILLIAM-HERBERT Jefferies |_____________

1879 LILLIAN-MAY

m Mary-Hodgson Gibson 1858

__________________|________________________________________________________________________________________

EDITH-HODGSON AMY-CONSTANCE WILLIAM-HERBERT HARRY DOROTHY

1902 1904 1905 1910 1911

m Emily Hayes

__________________________________________|_____________

AILEEN-M SYDNEY-A PHYLLIS-D ALMA-J

1932 1934 1936 1937

NOTES ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (EDWARD born 1774 see St Erth Family 1)
EDWARD TregenSOE/R baptised 17NOV1799 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), married 08OCT1825 Phillack, miner at baptism of SUSANNA 1827, at 1841 census boiler maker age 40 (to nearest five years) Bodriggy Phillack, at 1851 census boiler builder age 51 living Chapel Row Plain-an-Gwary Redruth, boiler builder at marriage of daughter SUSAN-ANN 1858, at 1861 census railway gate keeper widower age 62 born Phillack boarder with Hicks family living 29 Urens Row Redruth

x SUSANNAH born approx. 1798 Gwennap, at baptism of daughter SUSANNA 1827 described as ‘of Phillack’, at 1841 census age 40 (to nearest five years) Bodriggy Phillack, at 1851 census age 53, probably died 25FEB1855 Redruth (reported in Royal Cornwall Gazette 02MAR1855 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk )

GRACE TregenSOE/R baptised 01MAY1803 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), buried 24NOV1805 Phillack

ROBERT TregenSOE/R baptised 24APR1808 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), probably is ROBERT of Troon buried 10DEC1830 Phillack age 23 of Troon (record from Lorraine Thistleton [3b Cleave Road Gillingham Kent ME7 4AY])

JOHN TregenSOE/R baptised 29NOV1812 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), probably = JOHN Tregensoe of Hallankene age 20 buried 21JAN1831 (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), possibly = JOHN age 10 (born 1808 approx) indentured to Henry Rosewarne of Gurling 26MAY1818 in document PCERT/5/347 St Erth parish records of ‘Overseers of the poor: apprenticeship indentures’ in Cornwall Record Office (see www.nationalarchives.org.uk). [more likely this record fits in Unconnected Family 71].

GRACE TregenSOE/R baptised 19MAR1815 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza) possibly = JANE age 14 (born 1804 approx) indentured to Richard Carbines of Pen Pons 26MAY1818 in document PCERT/5/347 St Erth parish records of ‘Overseers of the poor: apprenticeship indentures’ in Cornwall Record Office (see www.nationalarchives.org.uk) [more likely this record fits in Unconnected Family 71].



NOTES ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
OLIVER-LUKE TregenSOE/R baptised 07JUL1819 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), born, at 1841 census tailor approx. age 20 living Bodriggy Phillack with Grace approx. age 60 (probably his mother) both born Cornwall , first marriage 07JUL1844 Wesleyan Connexion Chapel Copperhouse Phillack Redruth district tailor living Bodriggy Phillack, tailor living Bodriggy Phillack at birth of WILLIAM-JOHN 1850, at 1851 census age 32 living Bodriggy Phillack master tailor employing two person married to Jane, an assignment OLIVER Tregenza Truro draper (Bristol Mercury 27AUG1859 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), advertisement by James B. Job announcing the employment of O. L. Tregenza foreman and cutter of the late Mr. Jago of this town to manage the tailoring department of his establishment in Truro 30SEP1859 (Royal Cornwall Gazette www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1861 census foreman of tailors shops age 42 Pyder [Pydar] Street Truro St Mary’s, 03MAY1861 assaulted George Dobb who had complained over mis-fitting trousers (report of court case 11MAY1861 at Truro in Royal Cornwall Gazette 17MAY1861 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), second marriage 04JUN1866 Methodist New Connexion Chapel Hayle Redruth district tailor widower age 46 of Saint Clement Street Hayle Phillack, 01MAY1868 given three months notice to leave the employ of James B. Job and Sons Truro (advertisement in Royal Cornwall Gazette 25JUN1868 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ) a court case claiming unpaid wages and commission (Cornwall Gazette 16JUL1868 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1871 census tailor age 51 living The Foundry St Erth, at 1881 census Foreman Tailors Cutter age 62 living at 13 Malvern Street Stapenhill Derby, at 1891 census living 4 Tivoli Place Leigh Worcestershire (Pedigree Resource File http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/39GV-8X1), died JUL1898 Cardiff age 79

x JANE born 1820 Phillack daughter of Henry and Elizabeth, at 1851 census age 31 (her father age 83 Henry Hendra in household), at 1861 census age 42, died 28JAN1865 Truro (death notice 03FEB1865 Royal Cornwall Gazette www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk)

x PHILLIPPA-JANE born 1828 St Erth recorded as Beagleston, married Joseph Edmonds (went to Yuma California 1859, then 1862 to New Zealand for gold rush, died blacksmith 10SEP1863 Dunedin Otago), at second marriage widow age 38 of Saint Clement Hayle Phillack (father Philip Biggleston), at 1871 census age 43, at 1881 census age 53, at 1901 census widow age 73 born Cornwall St Erth living with stepson HENRY in Wolverton Stony Stratford Buckinghamshire, died March quarter 1905 Devonport district.

NOTES ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
SUSANNA baptised 21AUG1827 St Erth (parish register no.777 p.98), born Phillack, at 1841 census age 14 Bodriggy Phillack, at 1851 census unmarried tailoress age 23.

EDWARD TregenSOE baptised 02NOV1828 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), buried 30NOV1828 Phillack.

MARY-ANNA TregenSOE baptised 10DEC1830 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), at 1841 census age 10 Bodriggy Phillack, at 1851 census unmarried dressmaker age 20, married 22SEP1853 spinster age 22 of Chapel Row (father EDWARD a smith) to Richard Clemence engineer age 26 of Chapel Row Redruth (father Samuel a smith (Richard 1827-15FEB1892), died 17MAY1905 Ballarat age 74 (parents John ? and Susan) (note same error made by sister GRACE) ancestry.com.wysiwyg://129/http://data/ancestry.com and Pedigree Resource File http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/9ZH9-VCG submitted by msmith2809625

JOHN TregenSOE baptised 11NOV1832 Phillack (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza), at 1841 census age 8 Bodriggy Phillack, at 1851 census unmarried boiler maker age 18, married 04AUG1856 St Gluvias, arrived Australia 1857 on ship Thomas Asbuthnot (Arbuthnot ?), died 1916 Ballarat Victoria aged 85.

x EMMA (Tregaskis or Tregeskis) born ?1840, died 1914 Ballarat age 74.

GRACE TregenSOE baptised 01MAR1835 Phillack, at 1841 census age 6 Bodriggy Phillack, at 1851 census unmarried tailoress age 15, at 1861 census general servant age 24 in Copperhouse Phillack born approx. 1837 (record from Lorraine Thistleton [3b Cleave Road Gillingham Kent ME7 4AY]), came to Australia, had son Timothy (surname Tregenza ? or later Wheeldon ?) born 1863 Ballarat, first marriage 1864 John Wheeldon, had 4 children, died 1927 age 91 Northcote Victoria, gave parents as John Tregenza and Sussan Ann Bray ! (note same error made by sister MARY- ANNA) May = GRACE aged 24 arrived in Australia on ship Suffolk November 1862 with SUSAN-A aged 23 years (possibly niece SUSAN-ANN 1859 age 3).

SUSAN-ANN born 1835, marriage 25DEC1858 Redruth registry office spinster age 23 tailoress of Copper House Phillack married Thomas Luke bachelor age 23 tailor of Copper House Phillack witness GRACE Tregenza.

EMILY TregenSOE baptised 12MAR1837 Phillack, buried 13NOV1837 Phillack age 1 of Bodriggy.


EDWARD-JOHN born 1857 Ballarat, died 1858.

MARY-LOUISA born 1858 Ballarat, married 1882 Hysecemike Endey.

SUSAN-ANN born 1859 Ballarat, married 1884 William Dunstan.

EMMA born 1862 Ballarat, married 1889 Leonard William Thomas.

EVERLYN born 1870 Ballarat, married 1891 David Letita Dixion.

NOTES ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
ELIZABETH born 1845 Phillack maybe daughter born to Mrs Oliver Tregenza at Copperhouse first week NOV1844 birth notice Royal Cornwall Gazette 15NOV1844 (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1851 census scholar age 6, probably = ELIZABETH Tregensoe buried 11JAN1871 Phillack age 26 of Hayle (record from Charles-Wilfrid Tregenza)

MARY-ANNA born 14FEB1846 Copperhouse Phillack birth notice 20FEB1846 Royal Cornwall Gazette (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1851 census scholar age 5, at 1871 census unmarried visitor to home St Mary’s Truro age 25 draper’s assistant born Hayle, at 1881 census milliner and dressmaker head partner age 36 born Cornwall unmarried at Cathedral Hotel 7 Park Street East Bristol St Augustine Gloucester [film 1341596 ref RG11 piece 2478 folio 20 page 6], MARIA-ANNA Tregenza and Florence Maria Burbidge both of 7 Park Street Viaduct Bristol liquidation by arrangement (Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette 15SEP1881 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ) and sale of goods at 7 Park Street Viaduct (Bristol Mercury 08OCT1881 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk )

MATILDA-JANE born 04NOV1847 Hayle (MATILDA-JANE December quarter 1847 volume 9 page 249),a daughter to wife of Mr OLIVER Tregenza tailor at Hayle on the 4th instant November 1847 see notice in the West Briton newspaper (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com), at 1851 census scholar age 3 born Phillack, at 1871 census [Redruth parish district 7 schedule 035] visitor to Redruth home age 24 draper’s assistant born Hayle

WILLIAM-JOHN born 12JUL1850 Bodriggy Phillack, at 1851 census age 8 months, at 1871 census probably WILLIAM-J age 20 born Cornwall lodger at Tweed Street Battersea (London Surrey), possibly at 1881 census JOHN single model maker (Sp & M) age 32 born Cornwall boarder at 116 Barr Street Birmingham Warwickshire, married 31AUG1884 at St Peters Walton on the Hill Lancaster, at marriage pattern maker and bachelor age 34 living 33 Portland Place, at 1891 census head of household engineers pattern maker age 40 born Hale [sic] Cornwall living 7 Gray ?Street Bootle Lancashire, at 1901 census head of household engine pattern maker age 49 born Cornwall Hayle living 31 Bedford Place Seaforth Ormskirk Lancashire, pattern maker at marriage of son WILLIAM-HERBERT 1901, died W Derby district December quarter 1902 age 52

x ANNIE born 1860 approx. Ireland, spinster age 24 living 33 Portland Place at marriage, at 1891 census married wife age 31 born Ireland, at 1901 census wife age 40 born Ireland

REBECCA born 07DEC1852 Bodriggy Phillack (see certificate) (reported in Royal Cornwall Gazette 31DEC1852 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 2861 census scholar age 8, at 1871 census unmarried visitor to home St Mary’s Truro age 18 milliner born Hayle

FREDERICK born approx. 1857 Truro probably FREDERICK born March quarter 1858 Truro district, at 1861 census scholar age 3, at 1871 census living Foundry St Erth scholar age 14, at 1881 census living Derby age 22 no profession, at 1901 census age 42 born Cornwall Truro imbecile from childhood living with brother HENRY/HARRY

NOTES ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
HENRY born approx. 1860 Truro, at 1861 census called HARRY age 1, at 1871 census living Foundry St Erth scholar age 11, married SEP1882 Northampton, played draughts for Stantonbury team (Northampton Mercury 12NOV1887 24DEC1887 27OCT1888 24OCT1890 14NOV1890 Bucks Herald 03FEB1894 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1891 census head of household railway coach finisher married age 30 born Truro living with wife and nursechild at 185 Top Street Bradwell New Bradwell near Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire, minor prize in fishing competition (Northampton Mercury 16SEP1892 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), failed to be elected as councillor for Fenny Stratford (Northampton Mercury 21DEC1894 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), judge in Wolverton cycling competition (Northampton Mercury 16AUG1895 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), at 1901 census HARRY head of household age 40 born Cornwall Truro railway worker (some words of occupation undecipherable) living 17 Bedford Street Wolverton Stony Stratford Buckinghamshire, probably Tregenza at 08JAN1902 public meeting to prepare for Coronation Festivities (Northampton Mercury 10JAN1902 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), probably treasurer of North Bucks Constitutional Cycling Club Wolverton (Northampton Mercury 02MAY1902 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), at 1911 census head of household married railway coach finisher age 50 born Truro Cornwall living 17 Bedford Street Wolverton Buckinghamshire, may be H Tregenza of 9a Quay Street St. Ives present at death by apoplexy of Harry Edmonds 19MAR1934 at 45 Wesley Street Camborne. Harry Edmonds relative of his mother PHILLIPA as her first marriage to Edmonds.

x HONOUR-TABITHA born 1862/3 approx. Collingbourne/Marlborough Wiltshire, at 1891 census wife age 29 born Collingbourne Wiltshire probably wet-nurse to child Maud J C Crisp age 1 in the household, 1900 supporter of Northampton Infirmary (living 17 Bedford Street Wolverton) (Northampton Mercury 28DEC1900 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), at 1901 census wife age 38 born Wiltshire Marlborough, at 1911 census wife age 49 born Marlborough Wiltshire, died 1936 Northampton



NOTES ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
PHILLIP-BIGGLESTONE born September quarter 1866 Truro district, at 1871 census PHILLIP-B living Foundry St Erth age 4, at 1881 census living Derby age 14 scholar, in 1888 advertisement for a position wanted as engineer fitter etc. for young man just out of his time P.-B. Tregenza living 36 Aston Street Oxford in (Birmingham Daily Post 21FEB1888 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), at 1891 census probably single steam engine fitter age 24 born Cornwall boarder with Rideout family at 12 Wellington Street Canton Cardiff Glamorganshire, married September quarter 1899 Devonport district, at 1911 census PHILLIPS head of household married engine fitter in H. M. dockyard age 45 born Truro Cornwall living 12 Meredith Road Devonport Plymouth, 1922 active in Ark of Lodge of Plymouth Good Templars (Western Morning News 18AUG1922 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), awarded Imperial Service Medal engine fitter of Devonport Dockyard (Western Morning News 17NOV1926 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), died 04JAN1931 Plymouth (Devonport district) at death lived 12 Meredith Road Peverell Plymouth, administration and will (London) dated 04APR1939 to LILIAN-MAY spinster (executor of will LILLIAN-MAY)

x ELIZA-ANN born 1858 approx. Buckfastleigh Devon, at 1911 census wife age 53 born Buckfastleigh Devon, died 26OCT1938 Plymouth a widow at death lived 12 Meredith Road Peverell Plymouth, will (London) dated 24NOV1938 to LILIAN-MAY spinster (executor of will was LILLIAN- MAY)

ELIZABETH-BIGGLESTONE born March quarter 1871 Penzance district (St Erth), at 1871 census age 1 month living Foundry St Erth, at 1881 census living Derby age 10 scholar, at 1901 census single dressmaker boarder with Bridle family age 30 born Cornwall Hayle living 24 Cathays Terrace Cardiff, married June quarter 1907 Cardiff District
WILLIAM-HERBERT born 1879 approx. Lichfield Staffordshire before marriage of parents who had the same address at their marriage, at 1891 census son age 12 born Lichfield Staffordshire living with parents, marriage 28MAR1901 Wesleyan Methodist Chapel Whitefield Road West Derby Liverpool commercial traveller bachelor age 22 of 113 Leopold Road West Derby, commercial traveller of 53 Newcombe Street Walton at birth of WILLIAM-HERBERT 1905, commercial traveller of 78 Pendennis Street Walton at birth of HARRY 1910, at 1911 census head of household married grocer’s traveller age 32 born Lichfield Staffordshire living 84 Pendennis Street Anfield Walton West Derby Liverpool, commercial traveller of 84 Pendennis Street Walton at birth of DOROTHY 1911, master grocer of 1 Bishop Road Anfield Liverpool at time of marriage of AMY-CONSTANCE in 1926 and grocer of time of marriage of HARRY in 1932, died 18JAN1952 at death lived 1 Bishop Road Anfield Liverpool, will (Liverpool) to HARRY

x MARY-HODGSON born 1879 approx. West Derby Liverpool, at marriage spinster age 22 of 34 White Rock Street West Derby Liverpool, at 1911 census wife age 32 born W Werty (error) Liverpool, died 10SEP1952 of 6 Richmond Terrace Liverpool, administration (Liverpool) to DOROTHY (daughter)



NOTES ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
LILLIAN-MAY born June quarter 1902 Devonport district, at 1911 census daughter at school age 9 born Devonport Devon living with parents, active in Ark of Lodge of Plymouth Good Templars and district secretary by 1926 (Western Morning News 14AUG1922 14SEP1925 06FEB/01NOV1926 10MAR/26APR/06MAY/16MAY1927 14MAR/05APR/17MAY1929 28FEB1930 11MAR/14JUL1932 02FEB/22MAR/11SEP1933 22JAN/25JUL/10SEP1934 21/25FEB10/13/20/26APR/05NOV1935 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk ), died 23JAN1958 Plymouth district spinster at death lived Rocquaine Highbury Crescent Plympton, will (Exeter) dated 10FEB1958
EDITH-HODGSON born March quarter 1902 West Derby district, at 1911 census daughter scholar age 9 born Seaforth Lancashire living with parents, married Pugh December quarter 1929 West Derby district

AMY-CONSTANCE born 1904 June quarter West Derby district 8b 320., at 1911 census daughter scholar age 7 born Walton Liverpool Lancashire living with parents, married 28APR1926 All Saints (Roman Catholic) Church Ashfield Walton (West Derby district) Liverpool spinster age 22 living in parents’ home to Richard Fitzgerald bachelor age 21 paint and ?glaze? manufacturer of 57 Anfield Road Anfield (see certificate)

WILLIAM-HERBERT born 03AUG1905 at 53 Newcombe Street Walton (Liverpool), at 1911 census son scholar age 5 born Walton Liverpool Lancashire living with parents

HARRY born 25JUL1910 Walton Liverpool, at 1911 census son age 0 born Walton Liverpool Lancashire living with parents, married 28MAR1932 Richmond Baptist Chapel West Derby district merchant seaman and bachelor age 21 of 1 Bishop Road West Derby (see certificate)

x EMILY born 1916 approx., spinster age 16 of 36 Bishop Road West Derby at marriage
DOROTHY born 21NOV1911 84 Pendennis Street Walton West Derby, marriage 28SEP1955 Christ Church Buckingham Road the Brook Liverpool North grocer’s assistant spinster age 43 of 3 Feltwill Road Liverpool 4 to Thomas Smith widower age 44 maintenance joiner of 48 September Road Liverpool 6
AILEEN-M born 1932 December quarter W Derby district, died age 2 June quarter 1935 Liverpool

SYDNEY-A born 1934 June quarter W Derby district, married Jensen December quarter 1952 Liverpool North district 10d345

PHYLLIS-D born 1936 June quarter Liverpool N district

ALMA-J born 1937 December quarter Liverpool N district, married King March quarter 1959 Liverpool N. district



OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3

Constructed from information from:



  1. Unconnected Families 68 (Plymouth) and 92 (West Derby) were added here (see below)

  2. Sandra Tregenza including Victoria Births Deaths and Marriages microfiche (concerning JOHN 1832, GRACE 1836 and families)

  3. Nola Vella of Leopold Victoria Australia

  4. CHARLES-WILFRID Tregenza (GRACE born 1803 no parish given for burial, baptisms and one burial presumably from Phillack parish register)

  5. Arthur French and Julie Wheeler about Phillippa Edmonds née Bigglestone and family including the 1881 census at 13 Malvern Street, Stapenhill Derby

  6. Lorraine Thistleton [3b Cleave Road Gillingham Kent ME7 4AY] confirming the tree and suggesting links of former Unconnected Families in St Erth plus giving more dates and details

  7. Family of OLIVER-LUKE and PHILLIPA Bigglestone supplied from 1871 census [St Erth parish district 8 schedule 099] records from Les Smith and Alice Morrell plus information from the marriage certificates of OLIVER-LUKE to PHILLIPPA Edmonds and to JANE Hendra

  8. IGI records www.familysearch.org (one enabled EMILY to be added, another gave EDWARD baptised 1825 Phillack with mother Susannah Bray)

  9. marriage certificates of DOROTHY to Thomas Smith 1955, MARY-ANN to Richard Clemence 1853, SUSAN-ANN to Thomas Luke 1858, OLIVER-LUKE to Phillippa Edmonds 1866, OLIVER to Jane Hendra 1844, HARRY to Emily Hayes 1932 and AMY-CONSTANCE to Richard Fitzgerald 1926

  10. the birth certificates of REBECCA 1852 (daughter of OLIVER) and DOROTHY 1911 (daughter of WILLIAM-HERBERT)

  11. details of MARY-A. 1845 from www.familysearch.org

  12. Harry Edmonds Pascoe about H Tregenza (=HENRY ?) present at death of step brother Harry Edmonds.

  13. www.ancestry.com giving the death of MARY-ANN (married Richard Clemence) in Ballarat 1905

  14. records from administrations and wills

  15. reading of St Erth parish registers

  16. notice in the West Briton newspaper (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com)

  17. marriage of EDWARD to Susannah Bray 1825 from www.cornwall-ops-database.org

  18. www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk)

  19. ancestry.com.wysiwyg://129/http://data/ancestry.com and Pedigree Resource File http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/9ZH9-VCG submitted by msmith2809625 and Pedigree Resource File http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/39GV-8X1

  20. census records 1841 Phillack, 1851 Redruth & Phillack, 1871 St Erth, Truro St Mary’s, Redruth & Phillack, 1881 Derby, and 1891 from Kindred Konnections, www.findmypast.co.uk, www.freecen.org.uk, direct fiche reading and correspondents plus 1901 and 1911 from www.1901censusonline.com (see below)

OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
Unconnected Family 68 (PHILLIPS-BIGGLESTONE and daughter LILLIAN) was constructed from:

  1. wills

  2. general registry records

Unconnected Family 92 (WILLIAM-JOHN and ANNIE and offspring) was constructed from:



  1. marriage certificates of HARRY to Emily Hayes and WILLIAM-HERBERT to Mary-Hodgson Gibson

  2. marriage certificate of WILLIAM-JOHN and Annie Walker (which connected these families)

  3. birth certificates of WILLIAM-HERBERT 1905, WILLIAM-JOHN 1850 and HARRY 1910

  4. an email from Donna Lycett

  5. plus other records.

Note births of ALMA-J. as follows:

March quarter 1959 Liverpool North district 10d 554 mother King

June quarter 1960 St Asaph district 8a 949 mother Turner

June quarter 1974 Liverpool district 3G0362 mother Ward

Note no relevant marriage records for AILEEN-M and PHYLLIS-D

Note also HARRY born around 1911 in Liverpool region in Unconnected Family 59 and born around 1991 in Lelant Family



OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
1851 census at household 69 Bodriggy Phillack HO 107/1916

OLIVER

Tregenza

head

married

32

master tailor employs 2 persons

Phillack

JANE

Tregenza

wife

married

31




Phillack

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

daughter




6

scholar

Phillack

MARY ANNA

Tregenza

daughter




5

scholar

Phillack

MATILDA

Tregenza

daughter




3

scholar

Phillack

WILLIAM JOHN

Tregenza

son




8m




Phillack

Henry

Hendra

father in law

widower

83

retired farmer

Gwinear

1861 census at household Pyder Street Truro RG9/1558 district 14 St Mary folio 43 page 11 schedule 64



OLIVER

Tregenza

head

married

42

foreman, manager, general cutter in tailors shop

Hayle

JANE

Tregenza

wife

married

42




Hayle

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

daughter

unmarried

16

dressmaker

Hayle

MARY-ANNA

Tregenza

daughter

unmarried

15

draper’s assistant

Hayle

MATILDA

Tregenza

daughter




13

scholar

Hayle

WILLIAM-J

Tregenza

son




10

scholar

Hayle

REBECA

Tregenza

daughter




8

scholar

Hayle

ELLEN

Tregenza

daughter




6

scholar

Hayle

FREDERICK

Tregenza

son




3

scholar

Truro

HARRY

Tregenza

son




1




Truro

Mary

Letcher

servant

unmarried

20

domestic servant

St Agness

1871 census St Mary Truro district 12 schedule 66 from Kindred Konnections



MARY

Tregenza

lodger

unmarried

25

draper’s shop assistant

Hayle

REBECCA

Tregenza

lodger

unmarried

18

milliner

Hayle

OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)

1871 census St Erth parish district 8 schedule 099



Eliza

Nicholas

servant

unmarried

34

serv.

Ludgvan

OLIVER L

Tregenza

head

married

51

tailor

Phillack

PHILLIPPA

Tregenza

wife

married

43




St Erth

FREDERICK

Tregenza

son




14

scholar

Truro

HENRY

Tregenza

son




11

scholar

Truro

PHILLIP B

Tregenza

son




4

scholar

Truro

ELIZ.

Tregenza

daughter




1m




St Erth

1881 census at 13 Malvern Street, Stapenhill Derby FHL film 1341660 PRO ref RG11 piece 2759 folio 87 page 6



OLIVER L

Tregenza

head

married

62

foreman tailor’s cutter

Hayle

PHILLIPPA

Tregenza

wife

married

53




Hayle

FRED

Tregenza

son

unmarried

22

no profession

Truro

PHILLIP B

Tregenza

son

unmarried

14

scholar

Truro

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

daughter

unmarried

10

scholar

Hayle

1841 census at Bodriggy Phillack HO 107/143/13 district 4 folio 50 page 39 (ages of adults to nearest five years) www.freecen.org.uk



EDWARD

Tregenza

40

boiler m.

Cornwall

SUSAN

Tregenza

40




Cornwall

SUSANNA

Tregenza

14




Cornwall

MARY

Tregenza

10




Cornwall

JOHN

Tregenza

8




Cornwall

GRACE

Tregenza

6




Cornwall

1841 census at Bodriggy Phillack HO107/143/13 district 4 folio 48 page 34 (ages of adults to nearest five years) www.freecen.org.uk



OLIVER

Tregenza

40

tailor

Cornwall

GRACE

Tregenza

6




Cornwall

OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)

1851 census at 156 Chapel Row Plainangwary Redruth HO 107 piece 1915 folio 293 page 43 www.findmypast.co.uk



EDWARD

Tregenza

head

married

51

boiler builder

Phillack

SUSAN

Tregenza

wife

married

53




Gwennap

SUSANNA

Tregenza

daughter

unmarried

23

tailoress

Phillack

MARYANNA

Tregenza

daughter

unmarried

20

dressmaker

Phillack

JOHN

Tregenza

son

unmarried

18

boiler builder

Phillack

GRACE

Tregenza

daughter

unmarried

15

tailoress

Phillack

1901 census at 17 Bedford Street Wolverton Stony Stratford Buckinghamshire RG13/1414 page 29



HARRY

Tregenza

head

married

40

railway worker *

Cornwall Truro

HONOR

Tregenza

wife

married

38




Wilts Marlborough

FREDERICK

Tregenza

brother

single

42




Cornwall Truro

PHILLIPA

Tregenza

stepmother

widow

73




Cornwall St Erth

Maud-J.

?Clirfs/Chiss?

boarder

single

11




London Marylebone

* most words of the occupation undecipherable
1901 census at 31 Bedford Place Seaforth Ormskirk Lancashire RG13/3443 schedule 135 page 29

JOHN

Tregenza

head

married

49

engine pattern maker

Cornwall Hayle

ANNIE

Tregenza

wife

married

40




Ireland

Elizabeth

Lucas

visitor

married

35

living on own means

Yorkshire Doncaster

Winifred-E.

Lucas

boarder




3




Scotland

1911 census at 17 Bedford Street Wolverton Buckinghamshire RG14/8366 from www.1901censusonline.com



HARRY

Tregenza

head

married

50

railway coach finisher

Truro Cornwall

HONOR

Tregenza

wife

married

49




Marlborough Wiltshire

OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)

1861 census at 29 Urens Row Redruth RG9/2579 district 5 folio 90 schedule 185 page 35 from www.freecen.org.co.uk



James

Hicks

head

married

41

tin miner

Redruth

Grace

Hicks

wife

married

36




Redruth

James

Hicks

son

unmarried

19

tin miner

Redruth

Margaret-A.

Hicks

daur

-

14

domestic servant

Redruth

George

Riddle

son-in-law

-

10

scholar

Redruth

Mary-Ja.

Hicks

daur

-

10

at house

Redruth

Elizabeth

Hicks

daur

-

8

at house

Redruth

John Hy.

Hicks

son

-

3




Redruth

William

Hicks

son

-

1




Redruth

Edward

Hicks

son

-

4m




Redruth

EDWARD

Tregenza

boarder

widower

62

railway gate keeper

Phillack

1871 census Redruth district 7 schedule 35 from Kindred Konnections



Anne

Jenkin

sister

unmarried

19

draper’s assistant

Redruth

Eliz.

Thomas

head

widow

37

housekeeper

Redruth

EDWARD

Tregenza

visitor

unmarried

24

draper’s assistant

Hayle

1891 census at 185 Top Street Bradwell Buckinghamshire RG12/1149 folio 41 page 53 from www.findmypast.co.uk



HARRY

Tregenza

head

married

30

railway coach finisher

Truro Cornwall

HONOR

Tregenza

wife

married

29




Collingbourne Wiltshire

Maud-J.-C.

Crisp

nursechild

single

1




Marylebone London


OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
1901 census at 7 Gray Street Bootle Lancashire RG12/2974 folio 40 page 22 from www.findmypast.co.uk

WM-J.

Tregenza

head

married

40

engineers pattern maker

Hale Cornwall

ANNIE

Tregenza

wife

married

31




Ireland

WILLM

Tregenza

son




12




Lichfield Staffordshire

DANIL-G.

William

lodger

single

35

Dock labourer

Tarrington Herefordshire

1901 census at 24 Cathays Terrace Cardiff Glamorganshire RG13/4977 schedule 304 page 46 from www.1901censusonline.com



Thomas

Bridle

head

married

39

general labourer

Dorset Weymouth

Susan

Bridle

wife

married

39




Cornwall Marazion

James

Bridle

son

single

11




Glamorgan Cardiff

Lucy

Bridle

daur




9




Glamorgan Cardiff

William

Bridle

son




4




Glamorgan Cardiff

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

boarder

single

30

dressmaker

Cornwall Hayle

1911 census at 12 Meredith Road Devonport Plymouth Devon RG14/13033 from www.1901censusonline.com



PHILLIPS

Tregenza

head

married

45

Engine fitter HM Dockyard

Truro Cornwall

ELIZA

Tregenza

wife

married

53




Buckfastleigh Devon

LILLIAN-MAY

Tregenza

daur

single

9

school

Devonport Devon


OTHER INFORMATION ON ST ERTH FAMILY 3 (continued)
1911 census at 84 Pendennis Street Anfield Liverpool Lancashire RG14/22403 from www.1901censusonline.com

WILLIAM-HERBERT

Tregenza

head

married

32

grocer’s traveller

Lichfield Staffordshire

MARY-HODFSON *

Tregenza

wife

married

32




W Werty Liverpool **

EDITH-HODFSON *

Tregenza

daughter




9




Seaforth Lancashire

AMY-CONSTANCE

Tregenza

daughter




7




Walton Liverpool Lancashire

WILLIAM-HERBERT

Tregenza

son




5




Walton Liverpool Lancashire

HARRY

Tregenza

son




0




Walton Liverpool Lancashire

* should HODGSON ** should be West Derby

1891 census at 12 Wellington Street Canton Cardiff Glamorganshire RG12/4397 folio 44 page 5 from www.findmypast.co.uk



Thomas

Rideout

head

married

55

labourer

Dorsetshire

Angelina

Rideout

wife

married

54




Dorsetshire

Sidney

Rideout

son

married

16

painter

Dorsetshire

Emma

Rideout

daughter

single

15




Cardiff

Swithin-G.

Josty

boarder

married

35

wood carrier

Kings Cross London

PHILLIP

Tregenza

boarder

single

24

steam engine fitter

Cornwall

Note:


  • Nola Vella of Leopold Victoria Australia found a woman whose grand-mother was MARY-ANNA 1830

  • GRACE aged 24 arrived in Australia on ship Suffolk November 1862 with SUSAN-A. aged 23 years (possibly GRACE 1836 and niece SUSAN-ANN 1859 age 3 not 23 !)

  • FREDERICK born 1857 and HENRY born 1860 originally thought to be sons of OLIVER and PHILLIPPA or by her in previous marriage but the 1861 census showed that they are both children of OLIVER and JANE.

  • A young girl called Tregenza stole a valuable silver watch from the wife of Mr J. Tredinnick saddler in their home in Copperhouse it was returned by the girl’s parents who lived nearby. Royal Cornwall Gazette 24SEP1847 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk )

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