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part A

Constructed from information from:



  1. Unconnected Families 82 (Bodmin) and 84 (St Ive) were added here (see below)

  2. Unconnected Family 36 (Essex) had been already added to Unconnected Family 82 and is now part B (see below in part B)

  3. letter from Les Smith on Unconnected Family 44 (Birmingham)

  4. email from Les Smith 17NOV2012 about JAMES 1847 of this family being the same person as JAMES 1848 Unconnected Family 4A

  5. materials from Lyn Nash

  6. email from NORMAN-BARTLETT-STANHOPE Tregenza

  7. the work of Tina Elderfield and her relatives that confirms much of the family and allowed the addition of the two Unconnected Families 82 and 84 (see below). Her letters and emails supplied a family tree, copies of census records, birth records, marriage records, photographs of memorial inscriptions etc. This work that confirmed the linking in of JOSEPH-SIBLEY (see below) and gave more information on Rebekah Cooch and her Schibly/Sibley relatives (see below)

  8. an email from Les Smith building on the information from Tina Elderfield with extensive information on records, archives, and census that expand the detail of both parts of the family.

  9. information from CHARLES-WILFRID that confirms this family in part – he also supplied this record

JOHN died 22DEC1822 St Mewan age 64 so born approx. 1758 probably = JOHN Unconnected Family 5.

  1. marriage certificates of WILLIAM-DOWNING 1852 and LUCY-ANNE 1854

  2. birth certificates of JOHN 1858, JAMES 1848 and EMMA 1860

  3. IGI and reading parish records St Stephens, Creed and St Mewan (via Devon and Cornwall Record Society)

  4. records from wills

  5. non-conformist records from St Austell

  6. individual records from www.family.search.com

  7. passenger lists leaving UK from www.findmypast.co.uk

  8. www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk

  9. details of ship’s staff (including ELLIOTT-GUY-ROSS) ships list arriving at New York from www.ancestry.co.uk 27NOV2006 via Les Smith

  10. various records (mostly military) from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

  11. www.forces-war-records.co.uk

  12. Pedigree Resource File http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SR94-JDH , -J6F , -JN9 , -JKJ , JK3 and -JFR)

  13. http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au National Archives of Australia especially armed services enlistment records

OTHER INFORMATION ON UNCONNECTED FAMILY 4 (ST MEWAN)
part A

Constructed from information from (continued):



  1. 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 census records from Kindred Konnections, www.findmypast.co.uk, Lyn Nash and www.freecen.org.uk plus 1901 and 1911 censuses from www.1901censusonline.com (see below)

  2. Pedigree Resource File http://familysearch.org.pla:/MM9.2.1/SR94-JKZ, -JZT & -J67 contributed 12MAY2011 by MM3N-HX2

Unconnected Family 82 (JOHN 1826 married Emma Martyn and children LUKE-MARTYN and EDITH) was constructed from:



  1. Unconnected Family 36 (Essex) was added here (see part B below)

  2. individual and household records from www.familyserach.org

  3. the birth certificate of LUKE-MARTYN

  4. 1871 and 1881 censuses from Kindred Konnections (via Les Smith) and Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net (see below)

Unconnected Family 84 (JOSEPH married Ann and their two daughters) was constructed from:



  1. the marriage certificate of JOSEPH and Ann Rowe

  2. individual and household records from www.familyserach.org

  3. 1871 and 1881 censuses from Les Smith, Kindred Konnections and Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net (see below)

OTHER INFORMATION ON UNCONNECTED FAMILY 4 (ST MEWAN)

part A (continued)
The work of Tina Elderfield and her relatives provided confirmation and additional detail of all the offspring of JOSEPH 1794. This enabled the linking in of Unconnected Families 82 and 84. Also information to make the link between JOSEPH 1794 and JOSEPH-SIBLEY and other information on the links to the Couch and Schibly (later Sibley) families. She supplied the following census information and memorial inscription:

1871 census Pensilva 265 St Ive folio 32 page 56



JOSEPH

Tregenza

head

married

39

copper miner

St Mewan

ANN

Tregenza

wife

married

33




Blisland

MARY-J.

Tregenza

daughter




5

Scholar

St Ive

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

daughter




1




St Ive

John

Rowe

father-in-law

widower

72

formerly farm labourer

Blisland

John-E.

Oliver

nephew




7

scholar

Cardinham

John Rowe father-in-law of JOSEPH (Ann’s father)

Memorial Inscription at St Ive: JOSEPH TREGENZA January 4th 1890 age 58 years

Also of ELIZABETH ANN BRAY daughter of above September 8th 1900 age 30 years

MARY JANE March 10th 1904 age 38 wife of JAMES BREWER of Pensilva

[photograph difficult to read]

OTHER INFORMATION ON UNCONNECTED FAMILY 4 (ST MEWAN)
part A
Information (from Tina Elderfield) on the Schibly/Sibley family
John Couch John married 04DEC1748 Bodmin

m Sara Schibly Sara born 1727 approx. St Lawrence Cornwall

| Ruth-Schibly born 05NOV1749 Bodmin

__________________|_____________________________ Rebekah born 25MAR1752 Bodmin

Ruth-Schibly Rebekah Francis Sarah Francis born 17MAR1755 Bodmin

1749 1752 1755 1757 Sarah born 19JAN1757 Bodmin


Also Rebekah Couch married William Taylor 27DEC1748 Bodmin she may have been sister to John
See 1851 census above local family of name Sibly
Tina Elderfield is the grand-daughter of Gwendoline-Annie Brewer born 14JUN1897 first child of MARY-JANE Tregenza born 1866 and James Brewer.
NOTE: JAMES 1848 in part A of this family and JAMES 1847 of Unconnected Family 58 are probably the same person. Both are born around the same time giving birthplace as the same area (Landrake and Bodmin). JAMES in this family is illegitimate but the father of JAMES UCF58 is JOSEPH ! JAMES in UCF58 also has daughter called LUCY-ANN and grandmother ANN which are respectively the name of the mother and grandmother of the JAMES in this family. Note also that JOSEPH the father of JAMES of Unconnected Family 58 died between his birth and marriage and the only JOSEPH record in FreeBMD with a death between these dates is JOSEPH-SIBLY of this family
OTHER INFORMATION ON UNCONNECTED FAMILY 4 (ST MEWAN)

part A (continued)
1851 census Higher Bore Street Lanlivery HO107/1904 district 1g folio 456 page 2 schedule 8 from www.freeecen.org.uk

Edward

Reed

head

married

40

Officer Internal Rev.

Devon Bovey Tracey

Eliza

Reed

wife

married

38

Officer wife

Devon Crediton

Edward-James

Reed

son

-

9

scholar

London St George east

Eliza

Reed

daughter

-

7

scholar

Herefordshire St ??????

Albert-Edwin

Reed

son

-

5

scholar

Devon Collampton

Olive-Emma

Reed

daughter

-

3




Cornwall Fowey

William-Henry

Reed

son

-

6m




Cornwall Bodmin

LUCY-ANN

Tregenza

servant

-

21

house servant

Cornwall St Mewan

1881 census Ten Acres St Ive FHL film 1341548 PRO ref. RG11 piece 2283 folio 93 page 40



JOSEPH

Tregenza

head

married

49

copper miner

St Mewan

ANN

Tregenza

wife

married

53




Blisland

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

daughter




11

scholar

St Ive

John-E.

Oliver

nephew

unmarried

17

copper miner

Cardynham

also via Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net and used to create Unconnected Family 84
1851 census Lavedon 76 Lanivet folio 525 page 22 George Sibly and family live nearby

ANN

Tregenza

head

widow

56




Chippenham

JOSEPH

Tregenza

son

unmarried

19

lead miner

St Mewan

MARY

Tregenza

dau

unmarried

24

char woman

St Mewan

ELLEN

Tregenza

dau

unmarried

17

dress maker

St Mewan

JANE-D.

Tregenza

dau

unmarried

15




St Mewan

JAMES

Tregenza

g-son




2




Lanivet


OTHER INFORMATION ON UNCONNECTED FAMILY 4 (ST MEWAN)

part A (continued)
1891 census 7 Observatory Avenue Kensington London RG12/20 folio 79 page 30 from www.findmypast.co.uk

Mary

Gordan

servant

single

36

domestic servant

Tavistock Devonshire

ANN

Tregenza

servant

single

21

domestic servant

St Ive Cornwall

Bessie

Bartlett

servant

single

22

domestic servant

Fonthill Gifford Wiltshire

1871 census St Ive folio district 5 schedule 037 from www.freecen.org.uk



FANNY

Tregenza

head

married

53




Amesbury Wiltshire

LOUISA

Tregenza

daughter




13

scholar

Bodmin

EMMA

Tregenza

daughter




10

scholar

Bodmin

ELIZ.

Tregenza

daughter




8

scholar

Bodmin

JAMES is probably the son of LUCY-ANN and therefore a cousin
1841 census Halgavor Bodmin Trigg piece HO107/152/2 district 8 folio 7 page 7 from www.freecen.org.uk (ages to the nearest 5 years)

JOSEPH

Tregenza

45

copper miner

Cornwall

ANN

Tregenza

45




outside county

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

20




Cornwall

WILLIAMS

Tregenza

15




Cornwall

JOHN

Tregenza

15




Cornwall

MARY.

Tregenza

14




Cornwall

LUCY

Tregenza

12




Cornwall

JOSEPH

Tregenza

9




Cornwall

ELLEN

Tregenza

7




Cornwall

JANE

Tregenza

4




Cornwall

ANN

Tregenza

1




Cornwall


OTHER INFORMATION ON UNCONNECTED FAMILY 4 (ST MEWAN)

part A (continued)
1891 census Bodmonland St Ive Pensilva RG12/1809 folio 71 page 19 from www.findmypast.co.uk

ANN

Tregenza

head

widow

62




Blisland Cornwall

MARY-J.

Tregenza

daughter

single

25




St Ive Cornwall

MINNIE

Tregenza

grand-dau.




7

scholar

St Ive Cornwall

Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net supplied the following census information:

1871 census Illogan district 17 schedule PG1


WM

Tregenza

49

nurse workhouse

Creed

1822

1881 census Redruth Union Workhouse Illogan FHL film 1341561 PRO ref. RG11 piece 2333 folio 123 page 1



WILLIAM

Tregenza

officer

59

male nurse workhouse

Cornwall

1871 census St Ive district 5 schedule 037 see full version below



FANNY

TREGENZA

head

married

53

Amesbury Wiltshire

husband does not appear as he was at the workhouse

1881 census 4 Drump Front Redruth FHL film 1341560 PRO ref. RG11 piece 2330 folio 139 page 31



FANNY

TREGENZA

head

married

62

Wife of a union officer (idiot)

Amesbury Wiltshire

1861 census Woolstone St Ive folio 101 page 41 Liskeard RG9/1526 from www.freecen.org.uk



JOSEPH

Tregenza

head

married

29

copper miner

St Mewan

ANN

Tregenza

wife

married

33

miners wife

Blisland

JOHN

Tregenza

son




3




Bodmin

JAMES

Tregenza

visitor




12




Lanivet

JAMES is probably the son of LUCY-ANN and therefore a cousin

OTHER INFORMATION ON UNCONNECTED FAMILY 4 (ST MEWAN)

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