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part A THOMAS-JOHN

m Amelia Medlyn

__________________|___________________________________________________________________________________________

ELIZABETH MINNIE/ EMMA THOMAS-JOHN HENRY WILLIAM LILLA JOHN (=JACK)

1860 MAIMIE/ 1865 1867 1869 1870 1873 1875

MARY m Ellen-Ida Bray m Della Rogers

1863 |

|

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LILIAN ELLEN-IDA- THOMAS-JOHN CLARENCE DORIS-A.-F. VIOLET-A WILLIAM-J- JOSEPH-

LILIAN 1893 -MORLEY 1900 1903 MORLEY-B FREDERICK

1891 m1 Gertrude-Mary 1896 1908 -CHARLES

| Angwin m Dorothy Mullins 1911

m2 Elsie Bastock | m Sari

| ________________________________________________|______ | Chirgwin

| IDA-MAUREEN-K GILLIAN-ANN-D JACQUELINE |

part B 1933 1941 1942 |

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________|_____

SARI JUNE DAVID GRAHAM LUCILLE HUGH ANDREE JOSEPHINE-AVRIL

1932 1934 1937 1940 1941 1943 1945 1950

m Doris-Mary Vinson m Rosemary Hoar m Yvonne Michell

__________________|___ | ____________|________________________

MARK KENNETH | SHARON-JOANNE JASON-HUGH

1961 1964 | 1969 1974

m Selena Vigo di Gallidoro |__________________________________________

____________|_______ PAMELA-MARY-J ANNE-JEANNETTE

CHARLES-KENNETH 1970 1972

1990


NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 (THOMAS-JOHN born 1828 see Mylor Family 3) part A
ELIZABETH born 1856/7 Penryn, baptised 13AUG1860 Mylor (IGI &Truro Museum microfilm), at 8161census living at home scholar age 3 born Penryn, at 1871 census at home age 13

MINNIE (MARY in 1871 census)(MAIMIE in 1881 census) born 1863 Falmouth, at 1871 census scholar living at home age 8, at 1881 census unmarried age 18 assisting at home

EMMA born 1865 approx., married Falmouth parish church 02JAN1887 spinster age 22 to bachelor labourer age 34 John Male, marriage notice in the West Briton newspaper from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry, is informant and present at birth of FRANCESCA- PERLA-MEDINA-WEBBER 1896, at 1901 census 89 Middle Terrace Road Falmouth age 33 MINNIE wife of John Male age 37 farm labourer with PEARL Tregenza as daughter ! As EMMA does not appear in censuses maybe the same person as MINNIE – which ever way there are some discrepancies in her ages at different dates.

THOMAS-JOHN born 1866/7 Falmouth, at 1871 census at home scholar age 4, at 1881 census age 14 boy on board steam tug, married June quarter 1890 Falmouth district, at 05APR1891 census head of household age 24 engineer employee living 11 Raleigh Place, at birth of ELLEN-IDA-LILIAN 19APR1891 steam tug engineer living 11 Raleigh Place Falmouth, at birth of THOMAS-JOHN 1893 engine driver on steam tug living 1 Beacon Street Falmouth, at 1901 census head of household master of steam tug age 34 born Cornwall Falmouth living 3 Bassett Street Penwerris Penryn, probably T. Tregenza who competed in Penryn Regatta with boat Melita (West Briton 29AUG1907 www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), at 1911 census head of household married mariner age 44 born Falmouth living 4 Britons Yard Falmouth, died JAN1933

x ELLEN-IDA born 1870 approx. Falmouth, at 1891 census age 21, at 1901 census wife age 30 born Cornwall Falmouth, at 1911 census wife age 40 born Falmouth living 4 Britons Yard Falmouth

NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 part A (continued)
HENRY born 18DEC1869 Winchester Buildings Falmouth Town, at 1871 census age 2 living at home, at 1881 census scholar age 13 living at home, probably HENRY British Army attestation 19NOV1890 soldier 25393 Royal Engineers age 20 born Falmouth

WILLIAM born 1870 Falmouth, at 1871 census at home age 7 months, at 1881 census scholar age 11 living at home, at 1891 census at home 5 Prince Street Falmouth age 18 single disability: idiot

LILLA born 11FEB1873 Beacon Street Falmouth Town, at 1881 census LILY scholar age 9 living at home, at 1891 census age 17 at home 5 Prince Street Falmouth, married Luke Dewhurst (record not traced)

JOHN (= JACK) born 1875 Ashton under Lyne Lancashire, at 1881 census scholar age 6, at 1891 census age 14 bugler (M. Militia), at 1901 census mariner (possible interpretation of indistinct handwriting) age 24 born Ashton under Lyne living with mother in Falmouth, at 1911 census sailor age 32 born Falmouth Cornwall living with mother in Falmouth, keen sailor competing in his boat Pansy but drowned in Falmouth harbour when it capsized in July 1931 (15JUL1929 24JUN1930 02&10JUL1930 09JUN1931 07,13,30JUL1931 25JUL1932 Western Morning News www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), died 29JUL1931 age 51 Falmouth harbour September quarter 5c159

x DELLA
LILIAN presumably died before 1891 when second Lilian born, if she existed

THOMAS-JOHN born 24JUL1893 at 1 Beacon Street Falmouth informant Ellen Bray his grandmother present at birth, at 1901 census age 7 born Cornwall Falmouth living with parents, document ADM 188/660 reference 58 dated 1898 see www.nationalarchives.gov.uk his service number J6558 Devonport enrolled 24JUL1911 born 24JUL1893 Falmouth occupation ?Cook (MS)r? [boat hand crossed out] of Falmouth served as boy on ships Impregnable 11JAN1910 to 13SEP1910 Berwick 14SEP1910 to 20JAN1911 Vivid 21JAN1911 to 01FEB1911 Hannibal 08FEB1911 to 13MAR1911 Devonshire 14MAR1911 to 20APR1911 Collingwood 21APR1911 to 25MAR1912 (ordinary seaman from 24JUL1911) as ordinary seaman on ships Vivid 26MAR1912 to 19APR1912 King Alfred 20APR1912 to ?date? ?ship? 27MAY1912 to 03JUN1912 Lion 22JUN1912 to 04MAR1913 Vivid 05MAR1913 to 29SEP1913 Temeraire 30SEP1913 to 28FEB1918 Vivid 01MAR1918 to 25MAR1918 London 21APR1918 to 31MAR1920 (leading seaman from 24NOV1918) as leading seaman on ship Vivid 01APR1920 to 13JUL1920 (petty officer from 01JUN1920) as petty officer on ships Cairo 14JUL1920 to 19DEC1921 Vivid 20DEC1921 to 17MAR1922 ship ?Pomone? 18MAR1922 to 31MAY1922 and Britannia 01JUN1922 to 30JUN1922, first marriage June quarter 1920 Penzance district, second marriage September quarter 1939 Falmouth district, in 1949 lived 36 Pendarves Road Falmouth (on Identity Card of son LEONARD-MALCOLM), served on ship possibly the ‘March Hare’, in 1974 lived 7 Theydon Road Falmouth (electoral roll no. 2611), died 1984 Camborne District (vol.21 page 0090 regn.0284)

x GERTRUDE-MARY died 1937

x ELSIE was in service, in 1974 lived 7 Theydon Road Falmouth (electoral roll no. 2612)



NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 part A (continued)
CLARENCE-MORLEY born 1896 March quarter Falmouth district, died age six months

ELLEN-IDA-LILIAN born 19APR1891 8 Raleigh Place Falmouth (in home of Jane Martin a midwife – ELLEN’s parents lived at 11 Raleigh Place), in 1901 census ELLEN-J.L. age 9 born Falmouth grand-daughter of William Bray head of household 1 Beacon street Falmouth Town, married Frank Chapman December quarter 1912 Portsmouth district

DORIS-ALISA.-F. born 27NOV1900 March quarter 1901 Falmouth district, at 1901 census age 4 months born Cornwall Falmouth living with parents, at 1911 census ‘DAVIS’ [?] daughter age 10 born Falmouth living with parents, married Ernie Lewis September quarter 1917 Falmouth district

VIOLET-A born 27NOV1903, at 1911 census daughter age 7 born Falmouth living with parents, married Cecil Timmings March quarter 1922 Falmouth district

WILLIAM-J-MORLEY-B (= MORLEY) born 21DEC1908, at 1911 census son age 2 born Falmouth living with parents, married September quarter 1931 Falmouth district, died 31MAY1973

x DOROTHEY


JOSEPH-FREDERICK-CHARLES born 10NOV1911 Falmouth district, married September quarter 1931 Falmouth district, won prizes for Irish terrier at dog competitions (19APR1938 07/09JUN1938 18JUL1938 30MAY1939 06JUL1939 15JUL1949 Western Morning News www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), attempted to be council councillor (02NOV1945 Western Morning News www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk), died 28FEB1967

x SARI
IDA-MAUREEN-K born September quarter 1933; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

GILLIAN-ANN-D born June quarter 1941; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

JACQUELINE (=JACQUI) born December quarter 1942; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.


SARI born 10FEB1932 Falmouth district, married March quarter 1953; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

JUNE born September quarter 1934 Falmouth district, married September quarter 1954; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.



NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 part A (continued)
DAVID (=DICK) born 05AUG1937 Falmouth, married 05AUG1958; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x DORIS-MARY

GRAHAM born 31MAR1940 Penryn, married March quarter 1969 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x ROSEMARY

LUCILLE born September quarter 1941, married March quarter 1961 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

HUGH born December quarter 1943, married September quarter 1968 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x YVONNE

ANDREE born June quarter 1945 Redruth district, married September quarter 1971 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

JOSEPHINE-AVRIL born March quarter 1950 Falmouth district, married; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.
MARK born 25APR1961 Flushing (Truro district), married; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced

KENNETH born 28JUN1964 Flushing (Truro district); possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced

x SELENA
SHARON-JOANNE born March quarter 1969 Truro district, married; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

JASON-HUGH born September quarter 1974 Camborne district


PAMELA-MARY-J born September quarter 1970 Truro district, married; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

ANNE-JEANNETTE born March quarter 1972 Truro district


CHARLES-KENNETH born Treliske Hospital 27SEP1990

MYLOR FAMILY 5

part B

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GLENVILLE- KENNETH-T- LEONARD- TREVOR-ANTHONY- ERIC-BERNARD- EDMUND- IDA-M

DOUGLAS RICHARD MALCOLM ALEXANDER NORMAN-ARTHUR COLIN 1937

1922 1925 1928 1930 1933 1935

m Jane Ruthven m Alice-B. m Ellen-M. m Pearl Craddock m Sonia Lobb m Leaity

|___________ | Neale | Thomson | | ______|______

CATHERINE | | | | ANTHONY-C

______|_____________ | | | 1964

JANET-E SUSAN-A | | ____________|________________

1952 1954 | | CHRISTOPHER-E SHARON-M

| | 1961 1964

________________________|__________ | m Williamson

ANDREW-T-JOHN MARION-DENISE | |

1954 1956 | ______|__________

m Smith | THOMAS-DANIEL

|

________________________|_______________________________________



CHRISTINE-M MICHAEL-J SANDRA-M ROGER-A

1951 1953 1954 1957

m ? Hooper

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WAYNE

1976


NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 part B
GLENVILLE-DOUGLAS born December quarter 1922 Penzance district, married June quarter 1948; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x JANE


KENNETH-T-RICHARD born September quarter 1925 Penzance district, married June quarter 1948 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x ALICE-B.

LEONARD-MALCOLM born 06JUN1928 Falmouth, married March quarter 1953; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x ELLEN-M.

TREVOR-ANTHONY-ALEXANDER born June quarter 1930 Falmouth district, married December quarter 1950 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x PEARL


ERIC-BERNARD-NORMAN-ARTHUR born 04JUN1933 Falmouth district, baptised 1933, married December quarter 1960; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x SONIA in 1974 lived 16 Penrose Road Falmouth (electoral roll no. 1088)

EDMUND-COLIN born 26DEC1935 Falmouth district, baptised 1935, married September quarter 1962 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

IDA-C-M born December quarter 1937 Falmouth district, married September quarter 1957 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.


CATHERINE
ANTHONY-C born December quarter 1964 Falmouth district
JANET-E born December quarter 1952 Birmingham district, married June quarter 1972; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

SUSAN-A born December quarter 1954 Birmingham district, married September quarter 1975; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.t



NOTES ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 part B (continued)
CHRISTOPHER-E born December quarter 1961 Falmouth district, married September quarter 1986 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

x ???


SHARON-M born March quarter 1964 Falmouth district
ANDREW-T-JOHN born March quarter 1954 Redruth district, married May quarter 1986 Falmouth district

x ???


MARION-DENISE born March quarter 1956 Redruth district, married September quarter 1978 possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.
THOMAS-DANIEL
CHRISTINE-M born September quarter 1951 St Austell district, married December quarter 1971

MICHAEL-J born March quarter 1953 St Austell district, married June quarter 1975 St Austell; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

SANDRA-M born March quarter 1954 St Austell district, married December quarter 1975 ; possibly a living person so personal information has been reduced.

ROGER-A born September quarter 1957 St Austell district


WAYNE born December quarter 1976 Truro district

OTHER INFORMATION ON MYLOR FAMILY 5
Constructed from information from:

  1. Unconnected Family 81 (Falmouth) was added here (see below)

  1. Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net

  2. a letter and details from the extensive work of DAVID 1937 on his family general registry records

  3. letters from ERIC-BERNARD-NORMAN-ARTHUR

  4. a letter from KENNETH-T.-RICHARD

  5. photocopy of a letter from THOMAS-JOHN 1893

  6. email from Pam Ridley (PAMELA 1970)

  7. email from THOMAS-DANIEL

  8. email from CHRISTOPHER-E.

  9. email from Steve Rhodes (his grandmother was in service with Elsie wife of Tom [THOMAS-JOHN])

  10. Lorraine Thistleton [3b Cleave Road Gillingham Kent ME7 4AY] confirming the tree plus giving some more dates and details

  11. the birth certificates of HENRY 1869, WINIFRED 1909 ELLEN-IDA-LILIAN 1891, LILLA 1873, THOMAS-JOHN 1893 and FRANCESCA-PERLA 1894

  12. the marriage certificates of JAMES-HENRY to Elizabeth-May Thomas 1892, EMMA to John Male 1887 and FRANCISCA-PEARL to Charles-Conrad Bunny 1915

  13. 1974 Electoral Roll Falmouth

  14. baptismal roll Falmouth

  15. British Army Service records from www.findmypast.co.uk

  16. Seaman’s Identity Cards DAVID and LEONARD-MALCOLM and THOMAS-JOHN’ service record from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

  17. www.facebook.com

  18. www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk

  19. 1881 and 1891 census from www.findmypast.co.uk, Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net, www.freecen.org.uk plus 1901 and 1911 census www.1901censusonline.com (see below)

Unconnected Family 81 (THOMAS married AMELIA and children BESSY, MARY, THOMAS, HENRY and WILLIAM) constructed from:



  1. 1871 census records from Kindred Konnections via Les Smith and Lyn Nash

  2. marriage certificate of THOMAS to Amelia Medlin 1856 (which connected these families)

OTHER INFORMATION ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 (continued)
Census record supplied by Les Smith and Lyn Nash

1871 census Falmouth district 3 schedule 318



THOS

Tregenza

head

married

36

blacksmith

Mylor

1835

AMELIA

Tregenza

wife

married

34




Penryn

1837

BESSY

Tregenza

daughter




13




Penryn

1858

MARY

Tregenza

daughter




8

scholar

Falmouth

1863

THOS

Tregenza

son




4

scholar

Falmouth

1867

HENRY

Tregenza

son




2




Falmouth

1869

WM

Tregenza

son




7m




Falmouth

1871

1881 census 1 Dunning’s Yard Falmouth FHL film 1341556 PRO ref. RG11 piece 2316 folio 77 page 24 supplied by Lyn Nash lynnash@webaxs.net



THOMAS

Tregenza

head

married

48

boatman (on seas)

Mylor

AMELIA

Tregenza

wife

married

42




Penryn

MAIMIE

Tregenza

daur

unmarried

18

assisting at home

Falmouth

THOMAS

Tregenza

son

unmarried

14

boy on board steam tug (ms)

Falmouth

HENRY

Tregenza

son

unmarried

13

school

Falmouth

WILLIAM

Tregenza

son

unmarried

11

school

Falmouth

LILY

Tregenza

daur




9

school

Falmouth

JOHN

Tregenza

son




6

school

Ashton under Lyne

1891 census 11 Raleigh Place Falmouth RG12/1835 folio 19 page 3131 from www.freecen.org and www.findmypast.co.uk



THOMAS-J.

Tregenza

head

married

24

engineer

Falmouth

ELLEN-I.

Tregenza

wife

married

21




Falmouth


OTHER INFORMATION ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 (continued)
1891 census 11 Raleigh Place Falmouth RG12/1835 folio 19 page 31 from www.freecen.org and www.findmypast.co.uk

AMELIA.

Tregenza

head

married

51




Penryn

WM.

Tregenza

son

single

18

Disability: idiot

Falmouth

LILLIAN

Tregenza

daughter




17

At home

Falmouth

JOHN

Tregenza

son




14

Bugler (M. Militia)

Aston under Lyne Lancs.

1901 census 1 Beacon Street Falmouth RG13/2227 page 28 from www.1901censusonline.com



William.

Bray

head

married

51

Carpenter (ship)

Falmouth Cornwall

Ellen

Bray

wife

married

50




Paul Cornwall

James

Bray

son

single

21

Carpenter (ship)

Falmouth Cornwall

Robert R M

Bray

son

single

17

Carpenter (ship)

Falmouth Cornwall

ELLEN-J.-L.

Tregenza

g-daug

single

9




Falmouth Cornwall

1901 census 1 Jeffrey’s Cottage High Street Falmouth RG13/2227 page 17 from www.1901censusonline.com



AMELIA

Tregenza

head

widow

60*

Servant domestic **

Falmouth Cornwall

JOHN

Tregenza

son

single

24

Mariner ***

Ashton under Lyne

* last digit could be ‘2’ ** works on ‘own account’ *** writing indistinct

1901 census 3 Bassett Street Falmouth RG13/2227 page 27 schedule 150 from www.1901censusonline.com



THOMAS-J.

Tregenza

head

married

34

Master of steam tug

Falmouth Cornwall

ELLEN-IDA

Tregenza

wife

married

30




Falmouth Cornwall

THOMAS-J.

Tregenza

son




7




Falmouth Cornwall

DORIS-A.-F.

Tregenza

daur




4m




Falmouth Cornwall

OTHER INFORMATION ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 (continued)
1901 census 89 Middle Terrace Road Falmouth RG13/2227 from www.1901censusonline.com

John

Male

head

married

37

farm labourer

Launceston Somerset *

Minnie

Male

wife

married

33




Falmouth Cornwall

PEARL

Tregenza

daur.




4




Falmouth Cornwall

* no such place found: Launceston is in east Cornwall with various farms, roads etc. elsewhere but not in Somerset

1911 census behind 45 High Street Falmouth RG14/13889 from www.1901censusonline.com



AMELIA

Tregenza

head

widow

73

house keeper at home

Penryn Cornwall

JOHN

Tregenza

son

single

32

sailor

Falmouth Cornwall

1911 census 4 Briton’s Yard Falmouth RG14/13889 from www.1901censusonline.com



THOMAS-JOHN

Tregenza

head

married

44

mariner

Falmouth Cornwall

ELLEN-IDA

Tregenza

wife

married

40




Falmouth Cornwall

DORIS

Tregenza

daur




10




Falmouth Cornwall

VIOLET

Tregenza

daughter




7




Falmouth Cornwall

MORLEY

Tregenza

son




2




Falmouth Cornwall

1861 census Manchester Buildings Falmouth RG9/1565 district 3 folio 100 page 39 schedule 229 from www.freecen.org.uk



THOMAS

Tregenza

head

head

27

blacksmith

Cornwall Mylor

AMELIA

Tregenza

wife

wife

25




Cornwall Penryn

ELIZABETH

Tregenza

niece

dau

3

scholar

Cornwall Penryn

OTHER INFORMATION ON MYLOR FAMILY 5 (continued)
Note:

  • THOMAS-JOHN (head of this family) = BLACK-EYED JACK ran ferry boat from Falmouth to Flushing probably is THOMAS-JOHN died December quarter 1861 Falmouth District (5c127) and probably JOHN born 1828 of Mylor Family 3.

  • See Mousehole Family 4, Mylor Families 3 and Unconnected Family 77 for THOMAS married AMELIA !

  • WAYNE born December quarter 1976, Truro district mother’s maiden name Hooper so might be son of MICHAEL-J born 1953

  • LILY born Ashton March quarter 1876 vol. 8d p 524 and probably died Ashton 1876

  • The 1891 census Plainangwarry St Hilary (see above) gives JAMES-H. with wife PRISCILLA, mother MARY and niece MARY-JANE. The last two relatives do not fit here but do fit with St Erth 6 so it could be that some of the information about JAMES-H. and PRISCILLA of this family should fit in St Erth 6 instead.

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